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  • Oren Hercz

    August 8, 2012 at 2:58 pm

    Although I do think that in future filenames will become the most important thing when communicating with other apps, and things like reel # (timecode even!) will become a thing of the past. Do you?

    Oren Hercz
    Editor, Post-Production Manager
    Journeyman Film Company
    http://www.journeymanfilm.com

  • Oliver Peters

    August 8, 2012 at 3:24 pm

    [Oren Hercz] “things like reel # (timecode even!) will become a thing of the past. Do you?”

    Absolutely not. At least not for the next few years.

    Run the math. An 8-digit alphanumeric reel number gives you 36 characters per digit, which is 2,821,109,907,456 possible reel names. Each reel name can be associated with up to 24 hours of media. At 24fps that’s 2,073,600 frames in a 24-hour period. By the simple combination of an 8-digit reel ID and a TC value, it’s possible to identify and locate 5,849,853,504,100,762,000 unique frames. More at 25, 30 and 60fps.

    Very simple and elegant in its own way and instantly functional for a human without the need for software or hardware. That’s why EDLs simply refuse to die.

    – Oliver

    Oliver Peters Post Production Services, LLC
    Orlando, FL
    http://www.oliverpeters.com

  • Bill Davis

    August 8, 2012 at 6:17 pm

    Oliver’s reply is spot on.

    The key here is to understand that back in Legacy, there was a small penalty for messing around with clip folders or names or locations at the FINDER level.

    You could re-name an asset in the Capture Scratch, just point Legacy to it, and everything would be fine because legacy had a pretty simple flat file clip database that was easy for the program to manage.

    This is NOT the case with X. It’s database really needs to keep track of much more complex relational information about clip locations and the metadata applied to them. So in X it’s really important not to mess around too much in the Finder unless you’re confident you know what you’re doing.

    It’s another case where operating X as if it’s “kinda like Legacy” will cause you a lot of unnecessary hassle.

    The program has a lot of “automation” built in, and a part of that is handling changes to pointers and links between the program and the assets it uses. But this only works if it knows precisely where to find things.

    This does NOT mean you can’t move things around. Just that it’s always best to use the programs internal move capabilities (the MOVE or DUPLICATE menu commands!) rather than going out to the finder and dragging stuff where you think it should go.

    That’s a good way to confuse the software and screw up the database.

    “Before speaking out ask yourself whether your words are true, whether they are respectful and whether they are needed in our civil discussions.”-Justice O’Connor

  • James Ewart

    August 9, 2012 at 5:48 am

    Many thanks Gentlemen. Sorry if I am being obtuse here but when you say:

    “If the files become unlinked, then you can “relink project files” and it will ask for the location of the media files, based on the name of the file. As long as the name, timecode and duration match, it will relink.”

    If files in the Event library go offline and I need to relink Event files…and even though I have changed their names in the Event library just so long so I have not moved or renamed the original files (not in the habit of doing this) and even though the file names do not match exactly FCPX can figure out how to relink the files?

    Been using FCP since version 1.2…it’s been quite a journey

  • Oliver Peters

    August 9, 2012 at 1:00 pm

    [James Ewart] ” even though the file names do not match exactly FCPX can figure out how to relink the files?”

    Yes. In the relink dialogue, FCP X will display the file name and a suggestion for the last known path. This is all part of the database info that X is tracking.

    – Oliver

    Oliver Peters Post Production Services, LLC
    Orlando, FL
    http://www.oliverpeters.com

  • James Ewart

    August 9, 2012 at 1:24 pm

    Cool…hey this software isn’t so bad is it?!

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