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  • Removing track in dolly shot

    Posted by Jim Bachalo on May 10, 2014 at 2:44 am

    I have a straight dolly shot
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    pw music

    I need to remove the floor track somehow.

    What would be the ‘best’ way to do this in AE?

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  • John Cuevas

    May 10, 2014 at 12:53 pm

    I think the “best” way would be to get a clean plate of the floor without dolly tracks in a higher resolution, and camera track/planar track that to your move. If that option isn’t possible, try CC Wire Removal

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  • Walter Soyka

    May 10, 2014 at 6:47 pm

    It looks like it’d be pretty straightforward to do in Ae with a little help from Ben Rollason’s Projection script [link].

    Maybe it’s a worthwhile candidate for the Mocha Pro Remove module [link?

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  • Jim Bachalo

    May 10, 2014 at 7:35 pm

    Thanks Walter
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  • Jim Bachalo

    May 11, 2014 at 5:07 pm

    Only problem I’ve found is that I can’t seem to get a 3D camera tracker solve on the floor. Wall on right, no problem. Probably the lack of contrast?

    Guessing I have to use Mocha… can anyone walk me thru creating a proper track using Mocha? Just use the spline tool with default settings and export or?

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  • Ross Shain

    May 14, 2014 at 7:53 pm

    mocha should be able to track the floor pretty easily. You will want to track from end to beginning and draw a shape around the floor plane and avoid any foreground elements such as the instruments, etc. Then you export your track data.

    There are multiple ways to attack your problem from compositing perspective:

    1. Track in mocha AE and apply a “painted” patch to the track data. Because you will want to make you patch in perspective, you will want to use “Align Surface” button before exporting mocha data.

    2. Track in mocha AE and use the MochaImport+ to stabilize a precomp of the floor, do your paint work, than remove the stabilize. (mamoworld.com has great tuts).

    3. OR mocha Pro has remove module that could track in a painted clean plate and match the lighting shifts for a more realistic composite.

    best,
    R

    Ross Shain
    Imagineer Systems
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  • Jim Bachalo

    May 14, 2014 at 8:36 pm

    Thanks!
    My guess is Mocha is the ‘best’ option for this particular shot. Could not get the built in 3d tracker to solve the floor for some reason.

    For now have resorted to a somewhat kludgy and imperfect solution but it gets me in the ballpark

    I created a luma matte with blurred edges isolating the track

    The used this matte in conjunction with offset copies of the floor layer

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