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  • Removing pulldown from HDV shot on EX3

    Posted by Thatcher Kelley on August 18, 2009 at 3:58 pm

    I need help. I shot a wedding with the EX3 in the LP 1080 mode it 23.98. From what I understand the LP mode is just HDV. So I edited the video and just now realized that it’s 60i with pulldown and all that. I need to get the pulldown out so I can get straight 23.98 progressive. I tried going into color to do my color correction rendering out to prores (still in 60i). Then bring it back to final cut and use the reverse telecine to pull out the extra frames. It gave me an error. Am I missing something? Does the EX3 in LP mode with 23.98 do a standard pulldown or advanced? Is there a better way to get the pulldown taken out? I need some help.

    Please correct me where I’m going wrong

    Thatcher Kelley replied 16 years, 9 months ago 2 Members · 8 Replies
  • 8 Replies
  • Chris Borjis

    August 18, 2009 at 3:59 pm

    If I’m not mistaken its 24p within 60i and not 24p advanced where you could remove it.

    So your stuck with what you have.

  • Thatcher Kelley

    August 18, 2009 at 4:29 pm

    I thought there was a way to do a reverse telecine for each clip or batch them all. I did take one of me rendered clips from color and tried to reverse telecine it directly from cinema tools. I tried all the different options “AA” “BB” etc. And nothing did it right.

  • Chris Borjis

    August 18, 2009 at 10:52 pm

    the issue is that XDCAM and HDV are both mpeg compressed GOP formats
    and not individual frames per se like DV or DVCPRO-HD, so the
    pulldown is all done when its played back.

    essentially your 24p looks like 24p but plays within an interlaced
    frame.

    nothing can change this.

  • Thatcher Kelley

    August 18, 2009 at 11:48 pm

    That’s why I am wondering if I can get around the GOP problem by converting to prores or something of the sort. And I’m wondering what the best process is to do it with final cut and cinema tools

  • Chris Borjis

    August 19, 2009 at 4:14 pm

    nope, that would be like flattening a photoshop psd with layers, then saving
    as a jpeg then trying to get the layers back from the jpeg.

    You have to shoot 24p advanced on a frame based format like DV, DVCPRO-HD
    or HDCAM. thats the only way to get what your trying to do.

  • Thatcher Kelley

    August 19, 2009 at 4:54 pm

    Ok, so if I can’t remove the pulldown on these clips, then I assume that is ok. Will the video play correctly if I compress it to a DVD and play on a TV or computer? When I play the straight quicktime I see the pulldown frames clearly. How do I deal with that?

  • Chris Borjis

    August 19, 2009 at 7:13 pm

    It should playback just fine.

    tons of people record 24p and play it within 60i.

  • Thatcher Kelley

    August 19, 2009 at 7:39 pm

    How do I get it to look right on a computer. If I want to convert it to 720 for an HD youtube video, do I just duplicate one of the fields and scale it? Sorry for my ignorance. I have a really hard time understanding interlaced video. I’m too young.

    Thanks,
    Thatcher

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