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  • Charles House

    October 23, 2010 at 5:41 am

    I appreciate the suggestion and outline. I’m not all that concerned about having a 24fps timeline at this point. I just don’t want unbearable interlace issues. One seems to think that’s going to be the case, while the other says it’s not going to be noticable.

  • Walter Soyka

    October 24, 2010 at 12:56 am

    [Charles House] “I’m not all that concerned about having a 24fps timeline at this point. I just don’t want unbearable interlace issues.”

    This is the whole point, though — getting to a 24p timeline is the best way to remove those dirty telecine frames that are giving you that interlaced look. If you’re not happy JES Deinterlacer or Compressor’s reverse telecine features, it’s your only option left.

    [Charles House] “One seems to think that’s going to be the case, while the other says it’s not going to be noticable.”

    It will bother some people. Others will not notice. You have a technical flaw — broken cadence — in your program. You will notice it. QC engineers will notice, too, and they will reject your program for it. If you have to submit your program for QC, you should fix it before you send it out. If not, then I guess it’s up to you how much effort you want to put in to try to improve it.

    Walter Soyka
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  • Mike Kahn

    October 24, 2010 at 8:57 pm

    Just an idea, but what if you output the sequence as it currently is to tape, send it out to an alchemist or terranex which I believe can detect broken cadence, then recapture the tape. This would give you your footage, correctly converted to 23.98 and using the EDL 30->24 in cinema tools, you could use color to use that 24fps EDL as a cut list for your new master footage.

    Bring the edl and newly captured tape into Color, use as cut list, send to FCP. It will say it’s unrendered and will revert to original media, but that’s fine because all you really want are the cuts.

    Then you have an FCP sequence with everything at 23.98 and all the cuts.

    This would be the last thing to do since you obviously lose connection to the original media and could not make changes to transitions or anything.

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