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remember the old days!
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[Craig Seeman] “Given that one wont be able to install an nVidia card in an iMac,”
do the new iMac’s come with a powerful nVidia chipset?
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[Chris Borjis] “do the new iMac’s come with a powerful nVidia chipset?”
ATI/AMD GPU. Keep in mind Apple’s approach to GPU acceleration is different and I think the real test would be comparing Premiere Pro using nVidia to FCPX on ATI/AMD fastest GPU.
Given that the iMac can’t have it’s GPU swapped (at least not authorized) I think it may give FCPX an edge which means one may chose FCPX over PP if you’re putting an iMac Thunderbolt workstation together. Again this makes sense given how Apple likes to tie software and hardware.
I think that given both Avid and Premiere will have disadvantages to FCPX on iMac it’s another way to push FCPX as a choice.
I do think some post houses are going to look at FCPX and iMac Thunderbolt as an affordable way to add seats even it may be limited to the kinds of jobs it can handle at first.
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[Craig Seeman] ” do think some post houses are going to look at FCPX and iMac Thunderbolt as an affordable way to add seats even it may be limited to the kinds of jobs it can handle at first.”
thats what I’m doing 🙂
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Dennis – AVID support minimal third party IO devices like the AJA IO Express, which only offer embedded audio, and are therefore not a challenge for their own, expensive Nitris DX boxes for installation and broadcast work. I note they’ve been very slow to support anything like a Kona 3 or Matrox MXO2. I’ll not hold my breath for this whilst hardware remains important to them, as it surely should. As soon as AVID becomes effectively a software company (as this could make them) they’d have to get into a price war with a competitor about to release a $299 product.
I’d hope the FCP pricing could make AVID and ADOBE think again about their ridiculous pricing (which in Adobe’s case leads to massive piracy and DRM so restrictive it took me a week to get a working serial number on my CS3 upgrade) but again – won’t hold my breath….
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[Craig Seeman] “I think that given both Avid and Premiere will have disadvantages to FCPX on iMac”
Like what?
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[Dennis Radeke] “Like what?”
No GPU acceleration on ATI GPUs.
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[Craig Seeman] “I do think some post houses are going to look at FCPX and iMac Thunderbolt as an affordable way to add seats even it may be limited to the kinds of jobs it can handle at first.”
Probably not even all that limited. You’ll be able to do anything up to 2K 4:4:4 over Thunderbolt, in terms of both video I/O and storage bandwidth. The 27″ 3.1 GHz iMac is only ~15% slower in terms of CPU than a 3.33 GHz 6-core Mac Pro from last year. And, of course, FCP X, with GCD and OpenCL, is going to run a lot faster than FCP 7 ever did.
A 2011 iMac running FCP X will almost certainly be a significantly better all-around editing system than a 2010 Mac Pro running FCP 7.
Video editing is quickly moving down the “used to require expensive high end hardware, but not really all that challenging for modern systems” path that so many other types of software have followed over the years.
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Digital Workflow/Colorist, Nice Dissolve.You should follow me on Twitter here. Or read Does FCP X make project files obsolete? on our blog.
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Try this.
I’m curious if there are any other reasons or thoughts about why FCP X might be faster.
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[Ben Holmes] “I’d hope the FCP pricing could make AVID and ADOBE think again about their ridiculous pricing (which in Adobe’s case leads to massive piracy and DRM so restrictive it took me a week to get a working serial number on my CS3 upgrade) but again – won’t hold my breath….”
Well, you have to consider that for at least Adobe we have a different business model than Avid or Apple. In their case, they both sell hardware which in Apple’s case is a prerequisite to using their software.
With CS5.5 we introduced a subscription model which allows for a month-to-month usage at a lower price. For the video suite specifically, I’m also excited to mention that the 30-day trial now includes ALL of the codecs we license, so people can truly used it and evaluate.
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[Craig Seeman] “…Premiere will have disadvantages to FCPX on iMac”
[Dennis Radeke] “any other reasons or thoughts about why FCP X might be faster.”Because PPro – at least at first, until a rewrite – will still be stuck with the old 32-bit QuickTime legacy way of doing things?
(That’s a question, not a statement.)
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