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  • Relinking subclips to new master file

    Posted by Mary Kerr on July 18, 2017 at 4:12 am

    Hi,

    Humble newbie here…

    I am working as an AE for a mostly archival-footage documentary.
    I imported a 90-minute .mov file, and made 20-30 subclips, but turns out the original file was slightly corrupt.

    They sent us a new, higher-res .mp4 file, but with a new name.
    Everything is the same (running time, timecode, etc.), except for these differences:

    NAME (for example): “123.mov” (old) / “456.mp4” (new)
    FORMAT: 30i NTSC (old) / 1080p/23.98 (new)
    CODEC: Unsupported i(PAL) (old) / H.264 (new)
    IMAGE SIZE: 480×272 (old) / 1920×1080 (new)
    V. RESOLUTION: DNxHD 80 (old) / DNxHD 36 (new) (I’m bringing it in at a lower resolution)

    Is there any way I can simply change the name of the new file to the old name, and then link/import/transcode it and it will work with my subclips (after I relink)?! If so, would I have to change the “.mp4” to “mov” as well?!

    (FWIW, at one point, they reuploaded the old file for us, and I downloaded and brought it back into Avid, transcoding it as DNx36, and it seemed to work/relinking to all the subclips – but was still crappy quality…. I’ve tried with this new file, having changed the name to the original – and am having trouble).

    Thanks!

    Mary Kerr replied 9 years ago 3 Members · 3 Replies
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  • Brent Marginet

    July 18, 2017 at 5:50 am

    There not the same frame rate, frame size or even codec so a relink/import/transcode will pretty much be useless.

    [Mary Kerr] “Everything is the same (running time, timecode, etc.), except for these differences:

    NAME (for example): “123.mov” (old) / “456.mp4″ (new)
    FORMAT: 30i NTSC (old) / 1080p/23.98 (new)
    CODEC: Unsupported i(PAL) (old) / H.264 (new)
    IMAGE SIZE: 480×272 (old) / 1920×1080 (new)
    V. RESOLUTION: DNxHD 80 (old) / DNxHD 36 (new) (I’m bringing it in at a lower resolution)”

    How would the sub clips link back to a completely different T/C rate.
    There will be references to T/C Frames in the Sub Clips that don’t even exist in the new Video file.
    30i counts from frame 0 to 29 and 23.976p counts frame 0 to 23 so the timecode cannot possibly be the same.

    I would say that unless someone else has some crazy work around that it would be time to start from scratch.

    \”MY MEDIA/PROJECT MOTO: If you think three copies of your media or project are enough.
    Take a moment to place a value on them and then maybe add two more.
    Hard Drives are now stupidly cheap. A RE-SHOOT AND YOUR TIME AREN\’T.\”

  • Glenn Sakatch

    July 18, 2017 at 2:12 pm

    Your running time shouldn’t be the same, as was pointed out , because of the different frame rates.

    You can try taking the the mp4 into a 59.94 project, and output it, as a quicktime, with the proper name, thus converting the frame rate to match your original. From that new submaster, you might be able to relink.

    If you are trying to recreate 20 – 30 clips, it might be easier to call up the clips and just recreate them.

    Automation is wonderful when it works, but if it takes 12 hours to figure out how to automate a 2 hour task….then maybe its easier to just do the 2 hour task over again.

    Glenn

  • Mary Kerr

    July 19, 2017 at 5:22 am

    Hi Brent and Glenn,

    Thanks for the advice!
    I have just started to redo the subclips, which actually isn’t so bad – I’ve just created a sequence with the new footage and the old subclips. It will take much less time than what I’ve already put into this conundrum, but a valuable learning experience nonetheless.

    Thanks!
    Mary

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