-
Relink Problem – Event Online, Seemingly Random Clips in Project Offline
-
I tried opening the event/project on an older iMac that I have hanging around. It still has 10.0.7 installed. This means the project and event don’t have to be updated to 10.0.8. I connected to the Pegasus R4 raid over gigabit AFP, and relinked all the media. Again the Event seemed to relink perfectly. The project not so. I actually have more clips missing from the project than I do on my main system 114 vs 109.
I tried duplicating the event. Clicked modify event references, dragged the duplicated event to the top of the list and continued. The project shows the duplicated event as having 154 clips in use. The original event has 114 clips in use, 114 clips missing. Its the same on the main system.. just the numbers are distributed differently 159/109.
If I click on a clip in the project timeline, i see in the info status that the clip is from the original event, 1 clip in use/1 clip missing.
I’m thinking I’ll wait till next week.. see if there is a fcpx update (fingers crossed with more flexible relinking). If not, I’ll probably have to reference the in/out points on the offline clips in my timeline, and re edit them from the event. Boo!
-
[Matt Trubac] “I’m thinking I’ll wait till next week.. see if there is a fcpx update (fingers crossed with more flexible relinking). If not, I’ll probably have to reference the in/out points on the offline clips in my timeline, and re edit them from the event. Boo!
“I wouldn’t wait and just get to work.
Once you find an in point, mark in and option-r.
I wonder what changed about the media?
Jeremy
-
As far as I know only its location.
Apple got in touch with me regarding my feedback. If it gets sorted out, I will follow up.
-
[Matt Trubac] “As far as I know only its location.”
Did you use FCPX to do the transfer or did you use the Finder?
Where did the media originate before the transfer?
-
It was all done using Finder.
Media originated on bare drives in a Thermaltake dual eSata dock connected to a Mac Pro. When I got the new iMac I started using USB 3.0 docks, but those constantly going to sleep after a moments rest, or ejecting if the system went to sleep was irritating, so I purchased the Promise R4.
I copied media, events, and project from the bare drives to the raid using the finder.
I don’t know that anything about the media has changed. The event relinks with no apparent problem. This seems like a hiccup in the project to event relationship.. the project even steps through the relinking process, verifies the media, but can’t see it in the event.
I do have PPRO, and know that there is a metadata preference in PPRO that selects whether data is written to the file or a sidecar file. The media has been used inside PPRO also. It’s possible Adobe did something, but I don’t think so. If it did, I don’t think FCPX relink would validate the file.
Here is the process: https://vimeo.com/truvision/review/67903355/276fa581f5
-
I probably don’t have to watch that video and tell you it’s the XMP data and it wreaks havoc on FCPX media (it used to throw FCP7 for a loop too by knocking render files loose).
QTEdit will remove XMP data from your files if it is present.
Jeremy
-
OK, I just watched the video. Thank you, that is supremely helpful.
What I did notice is that some of the file paths have /Volumes/Wedding Media/Wedding Media and some don’t.
Also, this path for the first clip you are trying to find seems to differ from the path of your current media (picture):
Try this on one file only. When you go to relink a file in the Project, check the box to “Copy files in Final Cut Events Folder” and see what happens.
FYI, next time use FCPX’s tools to move the media. It takes a little longer but it does ensure verification.
-
I think what you are seeing is before I try to relink the project it shows the file path as:
volume/wedding media/final cut events/event name/original media
And after relinking project files it changes to:
volume/wedding media/wedding media/client folder/original backup/hdslr cf/date-camera-card
where the actual media files are that I relink to
———-
I tried relinking just one file, and copying it to the event. It did replace the alias in the event’s original media folder with the actual .mov file, but the clip in the project didn’t come online.
That suggestion made me think I should try relinking the event from scratch, and copy media to the event. I relinked one file that I know is always missing. Selected to copy it to the event. That part worked. It is still not online in the project though. I tried to relink project files and selected the one file.. FCPX thought it should be in the “event>original media” so I relinked to there. The actual media file is there from the event relink. Still didn’t work.
I appreciate all your help! I’ll try the QTEdit thing to strip away any XMP. I’ll see if Apple determines any definite cause or solution, and if not I’ll start replacing clips. If it wasn’t more pressing I’d have already started.. I’m more interested in finding the cause and solution at the moment.
-
[Matt Trubac] “I appreciate all your help! I’ll try the QTEdit thing to strip away any XMP. I’ll see if Apple determines any definite cause or solution, and if not I’ll start replacing clips. If it wasn’t more pressing I’d have already started.. I’m more interested in finding the cause and solution at the moment.”
Next time, use FCPX to do the media managing as it will move all the appropriate bits and verify.
This seems to be some sort of database foul/bug.
I’d be curious if you moved the media back to it’s original place if it would relink.
-
I’m sure this is a bug. I made a few observations tonight.
It is only connected clips that are not online. All clips in my primary storyline are online!
There are clips in the project that come from the same media file. These clips are online in the primary storyline, but offline as connected clips. The offline graphic says “missing clip.”
Before relinking the event the graphic for every clip in the project says “missing file.”
Reply to this Discussion! Login or Sign Up