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  • Redigitizing process still dumb

    Posted by Walter Biscardi on March 3, 2009 at 2:36 pm

    I see folks on here making requests for all kinds improvements in the next edition of Final Cut. I would still love to see Apple fix one of the dumbest things about the software, redigitizing an old project.

    I have a 27 minute documentary I’m bringing back online.

    So I media managed the timeline into its own project to ignore all the stuff we didn’t use originally.

    I select the timeline and say Batch Capture, Offline Items only.

    Final Cut tells me it’s going to capture 5 hours of material.

    It’s definitely capturing over 3 hours of actual material.

    My timeline is 27 minutes.

    In 1997 using Media 100 I would select a a timeline of 22 minutes and Media 100 would capture approx. 22 minutes of media using the Ins / Outs of the clips in the timeline. In fact I could do this on every project until I made the switch to FCP in 2001.

    So before we add any new features to the software, how about a really useful thing like being able to re-capture just 27 minutes of material if that’s all I want to capture? I supposed I could go through the steps of making “master clips” of each and every item in the timeline, but that would be a waste of time too.

    This is probably one of the dumbest things about Final Cut Pro. Wouldn’t make me switch to another NLE just for the one feature, but it’s certainly something that a pro software should be able to do.

    Walter Biscardi, Jr.
    Biscardi Creative Media
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    Bonnie Ernst replied 16 years, 10 months ago 13 Members · 21 Replies
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  • Arnie Schlissel

    March 3, 2009 at 2:57 pm

    Did you remember to select all clips in the timeline, right click and select “Make independent clip”, or whatever the phrasing is? That’s typically the case when this happens to me.

    Arnie
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  • Walter Biscardi

    March 3, 2009 at 3:10 pm

    [Arnie Schlissel] “Did you remember to select all clips in the timeline, right click and select “Make independent clip”, or whatever the phrasing is? That’s typically the case when this happens to me.”

    Yeah, still wants to capture everything though, even though I ignore all the “stuff outside this selection.”

    Walter Biscardi, Jr.
    Biscardi Creative Media
    HD and SD Production for Broadcast and Independent Productions.

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  • Arnie Schlissel

    March 3, 2009 at 3:17 pm

    Hmm… color me puzzled…

    The other usual suspects would be missing reel numbers, subclips, nests and speed changes.

    Arnie
    Post production is not an afterthought!
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  • David Bogie

    March 3, 2009 at 3:42 pm

    [walter biscardi] “[Arnie Schlissel] “Did you remember to select all clips in the timeline, right click and select “Make independent clip”, or whatever the phrasing is? That’s typically the case when this happens to me.”

    Yeah, still wants to capture everything though, even though I ignore all the “stuff outside this selection.”

    but that’s the whole point, right?
    You shouldn’t have to do anything other than initiate a Media Management routine and use some ultra-simple instructions. there is nothing intuitive, easy, or in the least bit FUN about Media Manager. It remains one of the areas where Apple has simply refused to invest any resources.
    And yet, we know from many years of such discussions, that tens of thousands of FCP use MM every day for mission critical operations. Beats me. I can’t get it do anything reliably except disappoint and fail.

    Ye Olde Media 100 remains a great comparison for so many valid reasons: elegance, stupidly simple and bombproof recapturing routines, so much more.

    bogiesan

  • Walter Biscardi

    March 3, 2009 at 3:52 pm

    [david bogie] “but that’s the whole point, right?
    You shouldn’t have to do anything other than initiate a Media Management routine and use some ultra-simple instructions. “

    Yep.

    Walter Biscardi, Jr.
    Biscardi Creative Media
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  • Mark Raudonis

    March 3, 2009 at 3:58 pm

    Walter,

    You’re only discovering this NOW?

    We’ve been battling with the “redigitizing” process for years. Due to our massive amounts of original media, we work in the classic “off-line to online” workflow. That dooms us to having to recapture EVERYTHING! Over the years we’ve refined our process to avoid most of the common “gotchas”, but
    there’s still plenty to go wrong.

    If Steve Jobs thinks Blu Ray is a “bag of hurt”, he should try uprezzing an one hour show with speed ramps, still frames and multiclips. Now THAT’S a bag ‘o hurt.

    Mark

  • Erik Draggaman

    March 3, 2009 at 4:09 pm

    Any of you guys think you could take a minute to look at my post below this one?

    It’s concerning clips going out of synch on my timeline. I’m in crunch time here and am desperate for a solution.

    Sorry to interrupt your topic.

  • Shane Ross

    March 3, 2009 at 4:20 pm

    This is just one of the few things I miss about Avid. SOLID offline/online workflow where a 27 minute timeline garners you 30 min of footage (handles).

    I haven’t worked offline in FCP for this very reason. And yes, this needs to be fixed, BIG TIME.

    Shane

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  • Walter Biscardi

    March 3, 2009 at 4:20 pm

    [Mark Raudonis] “Walter,

    You’re only discovering this NOW? “

    No. Been dealing with this since 2001. Just thought I would bring it up again. It’s kind of an annual tradition for me. I’m sure we’ll get all kinds of new things FCP can do with the next version, but this very simple task still won’t work correctly.

    Walter Biscardi, Jr.
    Biscardi Creative Media
    HD and SD Production for Broadcast and Independent Productions.

    Read my Blog!

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  • Mark Suszko

    March 3, 2009 at 4:33 pm

    Is this maybe an opportunity for a third-party product to come create an app to fill a need? Automatic Duck perhaps?

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