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  • Red One Premiere CC/Davinci round trip on windows

    Posted by Paul Levin on September 5, 2014 at 8:56 pm

    Hey all,

    I have a job coming up which is rapidly expanding outside my comfort zone, so I’m looking for some advice.

    I have a feature shot on Red ONE, cut on premiere CC 2014, which needs to go to Da Vinci for grading, then come back to Premiere for online, then a 4k final output, All on a windows system.

    So my main questions…

    1. I’ve done the Da Vinci round trip a million times, but never on a windows system, and I’ve always output 1080. what codec should I output from davinci?
    2. I’ve read a few things saying colorspace is a problem on premiere and I should master in after effects instead. (no one goes into detail on this point, they just say it’s a problem) Is this true?

    any general advice would also be appreciated.

    Paul Levin replied 11 years, 7 months ago 2 Members · 2 Replies
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  • Walter Soyka

    September 7, 2014 at 4:26 pm

    [Paul Levin] “1. I’ve done the Da Vinci round trip a million times, but never on a windows system, and I’ve always output 1080. what codec should I output from davinci? “

    You could certainly use an uncompressed format like DPX, but that will have pretty hefty bandwidth requirements. I’d suggest testing CineForm, my go-to intermediate on Windows. (I haven’t tried it in this specific workflow.)

    [Paul Levin] “2. I’ve read a few things saying colorspace is a problem on premiere and I should master in after effects instead. (no one goes into detail on this point, they just say it’s a problem) Is this true?”

    Unlike Ae, Premiere is not color-managed: that means it doesn’t understand when colors from different sources use specific profiles, and it doesn’t try to transform them to a common space. It also does not transform colors for your monitor’s profile.

    That’s ok as long as all your sources already use the same color profile as your output will, and as long as you’re making critical color decisions on a calibrated external monitor (or have made them already elsewhere, such as in Resolve).

    If you need to mix sources with different profiles, you can do some manual color management with LUTs and the Lumetri effect. (If you built a LUT from your project’s profile to your monitor’s profile, you should be able to work under an adjustment layer with that LUT applied and have display management, too.)

    Walter Soyka
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  • Paul Levin

    September 11, 2014 at 11:43 pm

    Thanks, that’s very helpful. Now I have the added fun of mixed frame rates. any suggestions on how to deal with that?

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