Recording media

[Dave Lozinski]

I read your post and honestly don’t understand your first paragraph and what your issue is?

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[John Rofrano]

[Richard Milner] “This isn’t a problem but it is time consuming. So is there a better way? Can I get a dvd recorder stand alone and pull the video across like you can on a cd with audio? Give me some direction to look in.”

There are a couple of solutions:

(1) Capture to computer with a program like Adobe OnLocation. This records directly to your computer’s hard drive. You can even capture directly to Vegas but having a program like OnLocation is a lot easier to work with and it serves as a field monitor as well.

(2) Capture to a Hard Disk Recording Unit. I use a Sony HVR-DR60 and when I get back to my edit bay from a shoot I just copy the files to my computer hard drive and start editing.

(3) Capture to a Solid State Recording Unit. The Sony HVR-MRC1 Memory Recording Unit is a nice unit. There are lots of these on the market from other vendors. I just use Sony as an example.

I’ve listed units that support both HDV and DV. This would allow you to use them now with DV and keep using them later if you plan to upgrade to HDV.

The problem with using a DVD recorder as you suggested is that the quality of a DVD recording is a lot less than what your camera usually records and if you are going to edit it and re-render it, you may loose too much quality. It’s worth a try. If you’re OK with the quality then that is the cheapest solution.

~jr

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http://www.vasst.com

[Richard Milner]

That’s a better solution than the results I found lastnight.
The two units you suggested, if I am recording 3 different feeds to go home and edit the video, then I will need 3 of those units, correct?

Blessings!
Richard

[John Rofrano]

[Richard Milner] “The two units you suggested, if I am recording 3 different feeds to go home and edit the video, then I will need 3 of those units, correct?”

Yes. One for each camera.

~jr

http://www.johnrofrano.com
http://www.vasst.com

[Richard Milner]

Jr, I don’t see the connections to these units. I am assuming they are DV connection? Both my camera’s dv port have gone south for life. All I have to come out is the yellow port on the camera which is either composite or component and I don’t know which one is which.

Blessings!
Richard

[Stephen Mann]

[Richard Milner] “Both my camera’s dv port have gone south for life”

The port labeled “DV” is a Firewire port. (Firewire is an Apple trademark). Firewire is the proper method of capturing video from the camera and all of the record units listed above only work with Firewire. The “yellow” connector is composite video, probably the second worst connection for video copy. You may as well use a $100 security camera. The only thing worse is an RF connection, which thankfully seems to be going away with the VHS recorder (and to the best of my knowledge, never used in a camera).

I am unaware of any on-camera composite video recorder.

So, if, as you say, your Firewire ports are all toast, how are you capturing the camera/tape data now?

If you insist on using the yellow composite port, then look for a used Canopus AVCHD unit. The AVCHD-100 will work just fine as will the AVCHD-300, but the AVCHD-300 has a time-base corrector built in which helps with tape to computer capture. You will not be able to use Sony Vegas capture since that only works through Firewire.

Alternately, you could buy a deck, or fix your cameras.

Steve Mann
MannMade Digital Video
http://www.mmdv.com

[Richard Milner]

Yea, well, when we started we were using firewire but I needed a longer firewire cable, so I got a 15ft. What I didn’t know was the cameramen who basically people that don’t want to sit in the crowd and stay out of site (not technical at first) was stepping on the firewire cable and pulling the connection. Eventually they stopped working. I imagine it is a simple solder fix but I don’t really want to go into the camera to fix them.

On the capturing part. I have a usb pinnacle capturing card. I hook it up composite and use a cheap AVS4YOU.com capturing software as VP10 won’t allow me to capture via composite or at least I can’t find out how.

I won’t stay in this way. When we get our new camera’s I am hoping to go to memory cards and copy it that way, but I have to prove myself to the church that we can do what we say we can do.

When we started this, we were just streaming, then a few weeks back they moved me from Media director over all the media to just video. SO that is why the interest in video/dvd making.

So all of this part is temporary and when I can produce the best with what I got, we will move to the next stage.

However in the interest of all of this, I am now looking to expand my business to video. I live on the coast of Georgia around major resorts and weddings are everywhere. What I am doing for the church I feel will eventually give me the opportunity to make money at it.

Blessings!
Richard

[Stephen Mann]

[Richard Milner] ” I hook it up composite and use a cheap AVS4YOU.com capturing software as VP10 won’t allow me to capture via composite or at least I can’t find out how.”

You’re definitely *not* getting the quality that your camera is recording. You are simply doing an analog to MPEG copy of the video. At best, you are getting SVHS quality.

No NLE program that I am aware of “captures” analog video.

Steve Mann
MannMade Digital Video
http://www.mmdv.com

[John Rofrano]

It’s going to be pretty difficult for you to prove yourself with broken equipment. Your best bet right now is to stick with tape and borrow a DV camera with a working firewire port to capture.

~jr

http://www.johnrofrano.com
http://www.vasst.com

[Richard Milner]

Yes you are correct. This is the problem I face. My finance committee wants me to get better, but we are faced with poor equipment to improve with. But we will get there. I started with a Intel webcam that sat on top of my laptop and a $1.23 computer mic streaming to Italy for my pastor to watch the church service. So we have advanced.

Blessings!
Richard