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  • reconnected media now have constant drop frames

    Posted by Linda Petrie on August 21, 2006 at 10:10 pm

    I removed a large folder of files from an external firewire hard drive to make more room for my large FCP HD 4.5 project. Suddenly all of my media files needed to be reconnected on this project (still remaining on the external drive). I reconnected the media files by changing my scratch disks. Then I captured more clips, but when I started to edit I started having drop frame problems every 10 seconds or so – two days ago I was not having any drop frame problems at all.

    Later I could edit for about an hour and then suddenly it was dropping frames every 10 seconds again and it is impossible to edit. This is happenning on two different computers! (And so I am a bit suspicious of the external hard drive, but why all of a sudden does it act up after I made more space on it?) If it rests for awhile, I can edit for 3-4 minutes before more dropframes.

    I don

    Linda Petrie replied 19 years, 9 months ago 2 Members · 4 Replies
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  • Dan Riley

    August 21, 2006 at 10:34 pm

    What codec are you editing with….I mean, is it DV or DV50 or uncompressed?
    Is the drive 400 or 800 firewire?
    Is there more than one drive connected?
    Is there anything else connected to our firewire port?
    What Mac are you using and how much RAM is in there?

    I don’t know for sure that de-fragmenting the drive will help
    but if you wanted to try it, I’d for sure recommend Disk Warrior
    to do it.

    Dan

  • Linda Petrie

    August 21, 2006 at 10:53 pm

    I don’t know how to figure out what codec is being used. Maybe you can guide me to find out.

    It is a 400 firewire.
    It is the only thing connected to a firewire port on the computer and nothing else is connected to that same port

    What Mac are you using and how much RAM is in there?

    I am using Final Cut Pro HD 4.5 on two different computers and it

  • Dan Riley

    August 22, 2006 at 4:22 am

    Linda,

    The reason this is important is because the higher the data rate of the
    codec you are using, the more you have to worry about the speed of
    your drives, or drive if you only have one. RAIDs are best for all
    editing, even DV, because you get a much higher average date rate
    from the drives to FCP and back. Apple has never recommended
    using firewire drives for editing but that doesn’t mean it doesn’t
    sometimes work. It’s just that you can’t trust it.
    It’s all in the manual. It’s all very clearly explained.

    Go to your browser and scroll the columns until you see “compressor”.
    What does it say you are using?
    If it’s DV/DVCPRO, which is most likely, ok. Your drive should handle it
    if there is absolutely nothing else wrong. But editing with firewire drives
    is dicey. In your case, if you have a 1.67 Powerbook, you most likely have a
    800 firewire port. You should consider buying an 800 firewire drive
    from someplace like macsales.com
    This would give you more headroom for the data rate that FCP wants.

    In the sections where you are getting dropped frames, are you
    doing any effects? Do you have more than one video track?
    Have you tried rendering the sequence before playback?

    Not that I’m recommending this for normal everyday operation,
    but you can turn off the dropped frames notification under
    user preferences and edit without getting the dialog box.
    But when you are all done, before outputting, you MUST
    turn this back on and render everything before playback.
    Go to sequence, render all, and checkmark all the colors,
    including audio.

    Dan

  • Linda Petrie

    August 22, 2006 at 4:30 pm

    Thanks Dan,

    I need help with this instruction:
    “Go to your browser and scroll the columns until you see “compressor”.
    What does it say you are using?”

    In my world ‘browser’ means Safari, but that’s not what you’re asking. I’m looking at “About this Mac/More Info” under each of the contents and I don’t see anything that says compressor or DV/DVCPRO. I don’t know where I should be looking.

    The powerbook does have an 800 connection, but my G4 doesn’t, and so I have been using 400 all along so that it can work on both. Working off of the firewires has worked fine for me all along for the past 4 years, even on larger projects. I understand the RAID would be better, but for right now, that’s not what I’ll be using.

    I am just editing a very small amount of clips in a new sequence, maybe 10-15 clips – no effects, no rendering, only one track of video/2 audio – I’m just working on the verbal sound track for the piece right now. I haven’t even put any B Roll on it yet. I’ve removed preferences. I’ve copied the sequence into a new sequence. I’m just baffled!

    Problems started after the external hard drive started to fill up and I took off another large project to free up space. The media all went offline for my project, which should not have happened. Before that I watched the entire larger 15 minute piece – no drop frames, nothing unusual.

    RAIDs – for future reference – what is needed to implement RAIDs? A card has to be added to the computer and then you can use these devices, is that right?

    Thanks so much!

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