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  • Recommended Timeline Codec for HVX200 720/30 or 1080/30?

    Posted by Lawrence Richards on May 18, 2012 at 10:35 pm

    Hello again,

    I’ve been either allowing FCP to choose the setting for me or going with DVCPRO HD. In either case, for whatever reasons I’m finding the footage looks choppy in timeline or, when I upload to a service like Vimeo, I am told by their techs that the kbps in the original timeline sequence that I’m exporting is too big. If this makes sense to anyone, while I have a few questions, I’d like to just start at the beginning with the Timeline setting.
    Thank you!

    Thank you!

    Larry R.
    Florida

    Lawrence Richards replied 13 years, 11 months ago 4 Members · 15 Replies
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  • Jeff Meyer

    May 18, 2012 at 11:01 pm

    Your timeline setting should match how you’re shooting. What’s your camera set to be recording right now, 720 or 1080, and is it set to 30p or a different framerate?

  • Lawrence Richards

    May 18, 2012 at 11:12 pm

    The timeline is set to match the footage
    But I’m wondering if one of the prorez codecs is better. Or something similar.

    Thank you!

    Larry R.
    Florida

  • Chris Tompkins

    May 18, 2012 at 11:21 pm

    Without knowing your footage specs, it’s hard to recommend the prores flavor best suited for you.
    If you shot DVCPROHD, leave the sequence the same.

    When you export, export current settings. Take That file into your compression program and create the deliverable. See the Vimeo site for ideal specs.

    Chris Tompkins
    Video Atlanta LLC

  • Shane Ross

    May 19, 2012 at 12:01 am

    I concur. If you shot DVCPRO HD…edit DVCPRO HD. You gain nothing by putting that in a ProRes sequence. FCP edites DVCPRO HD native, so it’s not doing any recompression of the footage.

    How are you uploading to Vimeo? Not the full res export…as DVCPRO HD, right? You need to compress it as H.264. Compressor has presets for this. Adobe Media Encoder in fact has VIMEO presets.

    Shane
    Little Frog Post
    Read my blog, Little Frog in High Def

  • Lawrence Richards

    May 19, 2012 at 12:07 am

    Im shooting on an hvx200a, in film mode in generally in 720pn, 30fps @1/60. Beyond that I don’t know what else there is. That said can I choose prorez hq 1920×1080 30fps or similar?

    Thank you!

    Larry R.
    Florida

  • Shane Ross

    May 19, 2012 at 12:20 am

    [Lawrence Richards] ” That said can I choose prorez hq 1920×1080 30fps or similar?”

    No. The camera doesn’t shoot ProRes. It shoots DVCPRO HD. And taking your 720p footage, and blowing it up to 1080…why not shoot 1080 at that point?

    Shane
    Little Frog Post
    Read my blog, Little Frog in High Def

  • Lawrence Richards

    May 19, 2012 at 12:41 am

    Ok so suffice it to say that if my footage originates from an HVX that its better to use dvcpro and not is that a hard and fast rule?

    Thank you!

    Larry R.
    Florida

  • Shane Ross

    May 19, 2012 at 12:49 am

    I don’t know if it is “hard and fast,” but it is the best way to do it. Going to ProRes gains you nothing other than longer render times and larger render files.

    But you don’t need to heed our advice. Do what you want. I’m just saying what I think is best. I was one of the first people in the world to work with footage from that camera on a broadcast show. Tested it before it came out and worked to get it certified by a few networks. I’ve worked with that camera, and it’s descendents for over 6 years now. My experience has been to work with it in DVCPRO HD sequences, unless I was mixing it with other formats. Then I used ProRes. But the camera alone…DVCPRO HD.

    Shane
    Little Frog Post
    Read my blog, Little Frog in High Def

  • Lawrence Richards

    May 19, 2012 at 1:33 am

    Good enough for me. So what can explain the stuttering of images I’m experiencing while using DVCPRO? This happening is what prompted me to ask these questions.

    Thank you!

    Larry R.
    Florida

  • Shane Ross

    May 19, 2012 at 1:55 am

    What hard drive are you using to store this media on? How is it connected? And are you used to interlaced smooth video, so progressive just looks stuttery to you? Without being in your bay, looking at your monitor, i cannot give an opinion on that.

    Can you post a link to something you have on YouTube or somewhere that has the stuttering you are talking about?

    Shane
    Little Frog Post
    Read my blog, Little Frog in High Def

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