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  • Bill Davis

    December 11, 2013 at 4:06 am

    Something wrong with just hitting Command 7 and using the ones built into X?

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  • Glenn Grant

    December 11, 2013 at 4:44 am

    FCPX only gives you one scope at a time

  • Bill Davis

    December 11, 2013 at 7:32 am

    Maybe it’s just me. I don’t ride scopes nearly as much as I did in my analog days, because today’s digital signals don’t degrade or drift nearly as much as the analog signals of my youth.

    In my workflow, If I see a skintone problem I’ll pop up the vectorscope. And when it’s time to check the master, running the WFM or RGB parade to ensure legal levels is smart. But other than that, when I’m editing, I want to concentrate on content – not engineering.

    But I totally get that others feel differently.

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  • Gary Huff

    December 11, 2013 at 12:51 pm

    [Bill Davis] “I don’t ride scopes nearly as much as I did in my analog days, because today’s digital signals don’t degrade or drift nearly as much as the analog signals of my youth.”

    That’s not why you use them.

    [Bill Davis] “But other than that, when I’m editing, I want to concentrate on content – not engineering.”

    I find that when people say they prefer to concentrate on the “art” rather than the “craft”, they rarely can deliver on either.

  • Olof Ekbergh

    December 11, 2013 at 1:11 pm

    I don’t use scopes all the time, but on the final CC pass I always do, and then it is handy to have parade WF and VS all at the same time. ScopeBox makes that possible even on a MBP.

    I also turn this on if I have a problem shot I need to find out if it will be possible to fix. I usually do “heavy ” CC in Resolve and that spoils you with scopes.

    You can also put Scopebox on an external monitor to make more real estate.

    Maybe the next release of FCPX will have this built in, but in the mean time…

    Olof Ekbergh

  • Steve Connor

    December 11, 2013 at 2:50 pm

    [Gary Huff] “I find that when people say they prefer to concentrate on the “art” rather than the “craft”, they rarely can deliver on either.”

    I’ve worked with a large number of great Editors over the years who couldn’t deliver a master to broadcast tech specs, they left that to the online Editor. It’s just nowadays you usually have to do both.

    Steve Connor

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  • Douglas K. dempsey

    December 11, 2013 at 4:19 pm

    In Bill’s defense, there are numerous great film directors who either started out as editors and/or edit their own films, from David Lean and Robert Wise up to Roderick Jaynes (aka Joel & Ethan Coen). I doubt they made the leap to handling the great actors and great stories by being good on the vector scope. Just sayin’

    Doug D

  • Jeremy Garchow

    December 11, 2013 at 4:22 pm

    [olof ekbergh] “I don’t use scopes all the time, but on the final CC pass I always do, and then it is handy to have parade WF and VS all at the same time. ScopeBox makes that possible even on a MBP.”

    Do you just have the scopes positioned behind the FCPX layout?

    Is this using ScopeLink? How does that work, is it a filter?

  • Gary Huff

    December 11, 2013 at 6:36 pm

    So Bill’s not really an editor? He wants to be a director?

    Directing requires it’s own craft as much as any other position. Now you can still turn out good work without knowing the craft, but then you’re just requiring that the people who make you look good are also on the ball (and possibly, even ignoring what you have to say to them in order to do something that is of quality).

    I fail to see how this applies, but then again, you’re “just sayin'” so it’s not like you’re standing by your comment anyway.

  • Gary Huff

    December 11, 2013 at 6:37 pm

    Exactly. So when they eliminated that position that your great Editors had, in favor of the Online Editor position, then they no longer had the fallback of someone who knew the craft to make their cuts look good.

    Unless Bill has a dedicated color correctionist working for him, but somehow I doubt it.

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