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Re-edits based on client timecode notes.
This might be a stupid question but when working on re-edits based on a series of timecode stamps from a client how do you avoid needing to always start from the end and work back to avoid the magnetic timeline adjusting itself?
That was probably very badly explained on my behalf. Essentially what I’m asking is… if I have a whole documents of changes and I make the first change in the list which might be “remove 00:30 – 00:45” for eg, then essentially all the further notes based on those timecodes will be out of sync once I delete that section of the footage, due to the way FCP works.
Subsequently I then find myself working backwards from the end of a video so that changes do not affect the sync of the timecode. Does that make sense?
Is there a way of avoiding this issue so I can work from start to finish and avoiding this headache?? It’s always been a pain when using FCP.
Thanks!
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Hi Ben,
You should duplicate your “timeline” and keep it open as a reference while making the changes.
Hope it helps,
Pablo
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I have a better suggestion. When editing a video, let’s say I name my Project (timeline) “Amber” and send it to my client once finished. If I need to make changes, I always create or duplicate my Project to “Amber Rev.1” or Rev.2 subsequently, etc. This way I never loose my previous Project (timeline) reference, in case the client later decides a previous version was better.
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Of course, make a snapshot of the timeline before making changes, but what I do is make the changes above the Secondary storyline first, to keep everything in time with the original change sheet, and then I go back and mend the timeline together and get rid of any gaps.
If the changes come from frame.io, I import the changes list (comes in as a compound clip with markers) and then I simply slice the compound clip as I go so it ripples with the timeline, and the changes stay in sync in the timeline.
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Depends on type of project.
But a good start is to use time regions together with “Replace with Gap”
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I don’t quite follow the “make changes above secondary story line” can you explain?
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If the notes are basically cuts from existing edit, step one is replace parts to be deleted with gap clips, going through the list and step 2 is get rid of gaps to collapse the timeline to its new form which makes sense in terms of keeping the original timecode notes in sync with the edit as you work start to finish.
Its been so long since I worked in a track based NLE I’m having. A hard time imagining the same edit scenario in lets say FCP 7 which was my last track based edit experience. In FCP 7 sections would be deleted, the time line would not be magnetic and so retain its original timing as sections were deleted , but then after making the cuts I’d have to go back and close all the gaps where sections were deleted?
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Sorry that was a typo. I meant primary. You can move the sections that need changing out of the primary so that the overall timeline remains in place. Makes sense?
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Ah yes this does make sense now.
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For future edits you may want to consider using Frame.io. You can have clients type notes into your uploaded video on the Frame.io site. You then download those comments directly into FCP as a connected clip. You can then break down that connected clip and have the notes flow down directly as connected comments. Those comments will stick with your edit thanks to the magnetic timeline until such time as you might trim that entire section of your timeline. This works like a charm and I try to get all my clients to use this simple feature.
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That’s what I do frame.io. And if you cut the compound clip when you need to make the timeline shorter, all the edits stay in the right place, even though the sequence tc doesn’t match the compound clip/notes tc anymore.
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