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  • Herb Sevush

    April 4, 2012 at 4:52 pm

    [Jeremy Garchow] “What a reel number does is point a person or computer to a physical medium.”

    Yes.

    [Jeremy Garchow] “This number is computerrific as it can point directly to a file through a search regardless of directory or location on the disk. Who needs bins and folders? ;)”

    Who needs bins and folders? Me. But I like the rest of your picture. Although I might want a shorter reel #.

    Herb Sevush
    Zebra Productions
    —————————
    nothin’ attached to nothin’
    “Deciding the spine is the process of editing” F. Bieberkopf

  • Jeremy Garchow

    April 4, 2012 at 4:58 pm

    [Herb Sevush] “Who needs bins and folders? Me. But I like the rest of your picture. Although I might want a shorter reel #.”

    I don’t necessarily. FCPXs keyword function allows the uber sorting of all data that bins and folders necessarily do not, but it still allows you to “put” the files somewhere if you need them.

    That reel number is taken from the file itself, I did not generate it. It makes reconnecting native MXF media in FCP7 a super simple and easy process.

    Jeremy

  • Richard Herd

    April 4, 2012 at 5:39 pm

    Thanks! I get about $5,000 per student @ 30 students.

  • Daniel Frome

    April 4, 2012 at 5:50 pm

    Hey, if you’re students qualify for that Avid discount ($295+4 years upgrades free) you can always “donate” them to me and use FCPX 😉

  • Andrew Richards

    April 4, 2012 at 5:55 pm

    [Richard Herd] “Thanks! I get about $5,000 per student @ 30 students.”

    Do you anticipate the students sharing media across their projects? Like they all pool their shoots and edit from the pooled media? Or would this be demo media for teaching that they just all need access to?

    Best,
    Andy

  • Bill Davis

    April 4, 2012 at 6:23 pm

    [Oliver Peters] “The stupid part is that FCP 7 with FC Server works (worked) EXACTLY that way.”

    Yep,

    And too bad Legacy was welded on to Quicktime – was based on a largely flat-file underpinning – and likely had significant pieces of licensed code peppered throughout it – all of which Apple dumped in the transition to X.

    A lot of people would have been very happy if Apple could have simultaneously saved everything while simultanesouly re-building everything in a new and more modern expression.

    But providing such absolutely mutually contradictory things at the exact same time is the stuff of dreams, not real-world software development, I’m afraid.

    So certain users have lost a whole lot of good – in exchange for the as yet unfulfilled promise of better.

    You label it “stupid” and I understand that.

    I label it “risky” but also quite possibly “transformative.” And I personally like new ideas a whole lot better than I liked the old ones.

    There are times for “safe” and times for “bold.” Since the new X works well for me already – I like that they took these chances to provide me with an alternative choice.

    It’s more fun this way!

    FWIW.

    “Before speaking out ask yourself whether your words are true, whether they are respectful and whether they are needed in our civil discussions.”-Justice O’Connor

  • Andrew Kimery

    April 4, 2012 at 6:26 pm

    [Andrew Richards]
    One of the biggest problems with FCSvr in my experience was that editors saw using it as a chore, they did as little as possible in order to avoid spending time in it, and they really just wanted to have the metadata they were creating in FCP (markers, bins, etc) to “just show up” in FCSvr. But since FCP7 didn’t talk to FCSvr at all, that could not be achieved with anything approaching a practical workflow.”

    This was my reaction when I started testing it for possible deployment at the last place I worked. The integration I’d hoped for just wasn’t there which was very disappointing.

    -Andrew

    2.9 GHz 8-core (4,1), FCP 7.0.3, 10.6.6
    Blackmagic Multibridge Eclipse (7.9.5)

  • Andrew Richards

    April 4, 2012 at 6:38 pm

    [Andrew Kimery] “This was my reaction when I started testing it for possible deployment at the last place I worked. The integration I’d hoped for just wasn’t there which was very disappointing.”

    And for the record, I loved FCSvr. But I’m not an editor. I made it do some pretty killer stuff with automating archiving and publishing to the web.

    Best,
    Andy

  • Jim Giberti

    April 4, 2012 at 6:44 pm

    [Bill Davis] “There are times for “safe” and times for “bold.” Since the new X works well for me already – I like that they took these chances to provide me with an alternative choice.

    It’s more fun this way!”

    I can be an adventure Bill .

    I thought this was a well balanced post.

    It’s no more reasonable to say that FCPX is crap than it is to say that the people working with it successfully are…whatever.

    When it does what it does well, it’s a lot of fun to create with.
    It’s the adventure I could do without.

  • Bill Davis

    April 4, 2012 at 7:11 pm

    [Jim Giberti] “When it does what it does well, it’s a lot of fun to create with.
    It’s the adventure I could do without.”

    I hear that loud and clear.

    Someone said that there are folks from here who have left and are now populating the boards of the other software programs. That’s excellent, to my thinking.

    If they needed something that X does not provide, it’s reasonable and sensible for them to go where they can get what they need to do the work that they need to do.

    I’m happy here – since a lot of smart folks are still exploring what X means – even after all this time.

    I think this is one of the most interesting places I visit on the web for precisely that reason.

    Many here are argumentative, and that’s great in my book. Because the ones that remain are also now sorted into those who don’t represent as much of a “risk averse” orientation. Which makes them more interesting to hang out with, IMO.

    Yourself definitely included!

    Hey, are you joining the NAB trek? Love to extend the “first round’s on me” offering to you as well if you’re going to be there.

    Take care.

    “Before speaking out ask yourself whether your words are true, whether they are respectful and whether they are needed in our civil discussions.”-Justice O’Connor

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