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Raising 5.4M, Reading Rainbow wants a full-time FCPX editor for 25K/year
Tony West replied 10 years, 11 months ago 18 Members · 66 Replies
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Tony West
May 8, 2015 at 10:44 pm[Jeremy Garchow] “I don’t know anyone in our freelance pool that uses W2, they are all 99, and usually are all incorporated.”
I hear you. Most contractors I’m sure do it just like you and Bret.
I do it that way also when I have to, but when I can get around it I do. I sometimes do spots for FOX SPORTS and they allow me to bill them as an employee and take the W2.
That also lets me avoid state unemployment insurance since in that case, I’m not the employer.
Some states do that differently so it just depends. That’s another thing I don’t want to pay : )
It may not be that much money but it’s money and it adds up over time.A lot of it IMHO is about shifting responsibility to the contractor. Especially when it comes to liability.
So if I’m in the Hall Of Fame Museum and a light falls over and damages something, FOX is not going to say, hey, Tony the independent contractor did that. He will write you a check.
I had one client take it to the next level one time and wanted me to actually sign a contract that said I was on the hook for anything.
I will often rig television cameras high over crowds in stadiums and if one was to come down and hurt somebody they wanted to run. I told them no way in h- I was going to sign that.
I’m using your support gear in order to put it up there for YOU. If your gear ends up being defective why should I be on the hook? They agreed with me and took the responsibility. I was the only person I think that challenged it.In my experience employers for the most part are not looking out for me and my ss. They care about their own bottom line so I make sure I pay attention to every time for my future. Who else will? : )
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Andrew Kimery
May 8, 2015 at 10:54 pm[tony west] “Tony the independent contractor”
That actually has a nice ring to it, too bad you don’t do more IC work. 😉
You still headed west for some Dodgers action this summer?
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Tony West
May 9, 2015 at 9:45 pm[Andrew Kimery] “[tony west] “Tony the independent contractor”
That actually has a nice ring to it, too bad you don’t do more IC work. 😉
You still headed west for some Dodgers action this summer?”
hehehe
Yes I am. Looking forward to it. We get in on the 5th of June. It will be the first time my cousins have been to California so I’m sure they are gonna want to do all that touristy stuff ; P
Disneyland, beach and such. We are going to the Sunday game which I’m pretty sure is going to be taken by ESPN Sunday Night Baseball.
If I don’t get a chance to catch up to you this trip, I will be coming back out there by myself soon.
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Bret Williams
May 10, 2015 at 12:38 amWhy should any of these be the responsibility of the employer? If you like it that they’re putting aside YOUR taxes for you fine. But the ONLY reason that the govt wants them withheld is so they can ensure they get them. But I’m just not a fan of the nanny state. I don’t have any wage protections. Let someone do my job for less. Hey if they can afford it, and the company is happy with it, that’s what it should pay. I’m selling a product/service. Even if the IRS defines you as an employee I don’t believe you should jbe thinking of the people your sell your services to as employers. They are clients and customers of your services. You have something of value to them and the two of you should mutually determine a price. I’ve found that thinking that way is healthier all around. Nobody owes me anything.
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Tony West
May 10, 2015 at 2:39 pm[Bret Williams] “Why should any of these be the responsibility of the employer?”
Because they are bringing in Billions and I’m just a working class guy. If you want to take that responsibility go ahead and take it. I just don’t want you deciding for me that I have to take it.
[Bret Williams] “But the ONLY reason that the govt wants them withheld is so they can ensure they get them. But I’m just not a fan of the nanny state. “
Now we are getting to the real deal.
OK, as my dad always says “Do the math” So let’s do it.
My aunt was in a retirement home here in St. Louis. Not the best one and not the worst one. They were charging $6,000.00 a month. A month! That’s $72,000.00 a year. My aunt was a nun for a good part of her life and then a school teacher. Do you think she was paying $72,000.00 a year in taxes as a school teacher in the 1950s? Of course not. She probably only got paid $8,000.00 a year.
She, like most Americans (that live a long life) got back way more than she ever put in.
I didn’t even add in medical bills and medicine.
You are looking in the wrong direction with the “nanny state” who you SHOULD be looking at are these knuckle heads that are overcharging our elderly.
Young people don’t pay attention to these kind of issues because they are not in a home or don’t have parents old enough to be in one yet.
I’m sure you don’t pay anywhere near 6k on your home right now and you are in the prime of your earning.
By the time you are 75 and on a fixed income, you are going to end up in a dinky room with a roommate
just like my aunt, paying way more than 6k by that point, and it won’t be the government that put you there. It’s a scary thought right? Nobody wants to think about it. Folks better wake up.[Bret Williams] “Let someone do my job for less. Hey if they can afford it, and the company is happy with it, that’s what it should pay.”
So you are for a race to the bottom. I’m not.
I want the working class to make as much as they can so they can spend it back into the economy and we all do well. Not just some at the top.
I’m sure there are people that would work the World Series for free just to be there. I’m glad your view is a minority one so I can earn a living : )
[Bret Williams] “You have something of value to them and the two of you should mutually determine a price. “
I agree, and that’s what we do. All the union does is put that agreement into writing. A contract.
Same as you, I just have it in writing.[Bret Williams] “Nobody owes me anything.”
It’s a nice line, but I’m sure slaves back on the plantations didn’t have the luxury of using it.
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John Davidson
May 10, 2015 at 4:18 pm[tony west] “[Bret Williams] “Nobody owes me anything.”
It’s a nice line, but I’m sure slaves back on the plantations didn’t have the luxury of using it.”
Wait wait wait. Did you just indirectly accuse Reading Rainbow, owned by Lavar Burton, actor from “Roots” of being the equivalent of a slave owner?
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Bill Davis
May 10, 2015 at 6:22 pm[John Davidson] “Wait wait wait. Did you just indirectly accuse Reading Rainbow, owned by Lavar Burton, actor from “Roots” of being the equivalent of a slave owner?”
I think what’s being charged is that somebody downstream in the Reading Rainbow organization is utterly clueless as to how the modern internet works.
But just because Mr Burton has built solid credentials and has great stockpiles of earned goodwill – how dose that exempt him from fair ongoing scrutiny?
If we’re wrong, somebody needs to disabuse us of the notion that it’s a “grinders” offer.
Until that happens, it will tarnish the reputation of the new RR endeavor. Which is sad.
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Tony West
May 11, 2015 at 1:17 am[John Davidson] “Wait wait wait. Did you just indirectly accuse Reading Rainbow, owned by Lavar Burton, actor from “Roots” of being the equivalent of a slave owner?”
Roots, hummmmm
Some folks might need a refresher course on that old classic series.
Yas’em
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Andrew Kimery
May 11, 2015 at 5:15 am[tony west] “If I don’t get a chance to catch up to you this trip, I will be coming back out there by myself soon.”
Right on. Sounds like you might have your hands full but we can play it by ear.
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Andrew Kimery
May 11, 2015 at 6:17 amNot to pull this thread back on topic, but I do feel for the position the Reading Rainbow people are in. Sure they raised nearly 5.5 million bucks on Kickstarter, but their goal is expand the RR experience from just a tablet app onto pretty much every device out there. Smart phones, smart TVs, set top boxes, web-based, game consoles, etc.,. that’s a lot of platforms to develop for and support. They also want to make a RR program geared towards classrooms and offer it for free.
On one hand I feel like if this was a one-off gig, as opposed to a staff position, it wouldn’t have been such a big deal. One person, who saw this ad posted on a FB group, said they’d be willing to help out pro bono because they believed in the cause so much.
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