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  • Charlie Austin

    April 22, 2016 at 12:25 am

    [Oliver Peters] “Huh? Avid and Avid do license ProRes from Apple. That’s how they can write ProRes media on the Macs.

    I stand corrected… I guess I don’t understand the issue, assuming the codecs are installed. ProRes won’t play without the player?

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  • Walter Soyka

    April 22, 2016 at 12:27 am

    [Christopher Sosa] “Has anyone had luck with exporting DNxHD MXF with an alpha? Right now we use the .mov wrapper but I can’t seem to get an alpha to come over in AME CC.”

    Not a direct answer to your question, but we’ve been using CineForm/MOV as our mezzanine codec. Adobe apps write it directly without QuickTime, and it supports alpha.

    MOX [link] is more important now than ever.

    Walter Soyka
    Designer & Mad Scientist at Keen Live [link]
    Motion Graphics, Widescreen Events, Presentation Design, and Consulting
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  • Gary Huff

    April 22, 2016 at 12:45 am

    [Eric Santiago] “I for one avoid QT player on the Mac itself these days. I use VLC or host NLE.”

    Same here.

  • Oliver Peters

    April 22, 2016 at 1:10 am

    “ProRes won’t play without the player?”

    I don’t understand what this question means.

    Oliver

    Oliver Peters Post Production Services, LLC
    Orlando, FL
    http://www.oliverpeters.com

  • Michael Gissing

    April 22, 2016 at 1:29 am

    I use VLC to play media files on PC. Resolve can read ProRes on PC but not write. I am using DnxHD as the master file (must test Cineform Walter) and then I have Cinec free encoder to make a ProRes deliverable when asked. Interestingly drop that ProRes into FCP7 and it wants to render. Also Cinema Tools won’t rewrite headers to change frame rate.

    I would rather switch to mxf DNxHR for all my mastering and deliverbles but somehow Apple have managed to grab the attention as default codec. DNxHD in a QT wrapper sometimes seems to read with the wrong gamma in other software.

  • Bill Davis

    April 22, 2016 at 6:19 pm

    [Andrew Kimery] “You seem to be trying really hard to blame Adobe for security holes in Apple’s software. A Windows machine with QT installed is potentially at risk even if there’s not a single piece of Adobe software in sight.”

    Wait, wasn’t the “security vulnerability” outside Quicktime per se – the flaw was in how the software interacts with the Windows OS? It’s been years since Apple migrated from QT to Core/AVFoundation, its not like anybody should have been surprised that moth holes were appearing in the older systems.

    I’m not smart enough to understand whether the vulnerability was in the work Apple did, or a flaw in the underlying Windows OS that allowed the breech, but QT is pretty pervasive and the breech is ONLY relative to that platform. So I think it’s far to question whether the code flaw is totally Apple’s fault. After all, it stood for decades without much vulnerability. And suddenly after all those years, it’s the problem?

    Given that the freeking FBI just asked Apple to build in a backdoor to the MacOS – and Apple refused – it’s pretty obvious that they consider security issues to be completely “mission critical.”

    So wouldn’t YOU have deprecated Quicktime for Windows just the same if it was your call?

    The risk/reward thing seems obviously not about video editing, or even Quicktime per se. It’s about the entire Apple software brand.

    It sucks that the exposed flaw results in this type of impact to a sub class of a sub class of users that we all belong to. But on balance, I’d sure rather they made sure the whole freekin’ OS is secure – than just make it easier for me to share files with Windows folk.

    Or am I getting this somehow wrong and Apple should be raked over the coals for not seeing this coming back 15 years when they designed QT?

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  • Andrew Kimery

    April 22, 2016 at 6:35 pm

    [Bill Davis] “Or am I getting this somehow wrong and Apple should be raked over the coals for not seeing this coming back 15 years when they designed QT?”

    Okay. I was just questioning why Ricardo kept pointing the finger at Adobe. There are security holes in Apple’s software and the only fix is to uninstall said software. Is that info inaccurate? Maybe it’s all Apples fault. Maybe it’s all MS’s fault. Maybe it’s both their faults. If you want to speculate about why, and float conspiracy theories, isn’t it convenient that the security flaws only impact Apple’s competitors and not Apple?

    Regardless, I can’t see how Adobe is at fault for any of this which was my only point.

  • Andy Edwards

    April 22, 2016 at 8:21 pm

    Telestream Vantage products allow for encoding or flipping files to ProRes flavors and it runs on Windows. Steep price, but one of the few Windows based encoders that can export ProRes.

    Andy Edwards

  • Craig Seeman

    April 22, 2016 at 8:44 pm

    Telestream Episode Engine as well but not the standard or Pro version.

  • Christopher Sosa

    April 22, 2016 at 9:16 pm

    [Walter Soyka] “Not a direct answer to your question, but we’ve been using CineForm/MOV as our mezzanine codec. Adobe apps write it directly without QuickTime, and it supports alpha.”

    Thanks Walter, but with this QuickTime security issues my companies IT department is probably going to remove it from our systems. So ideally another container file that works with DNxHD would be best. MXF looked promising but I can’t get that alpha to work.

    Now I did read a post that stated you could uninstall QuickTime and reinstall just the codec by choosing “only 3rd party apps”. I haven’t tried it yet but it would be great if it’s that easy.

    here’s the thread.
    https://forums.creativecow.net/thread/2/1072242#1072246

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