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  • quicktime problem – or something larger??

    Posted by Alee1207 on December 20, 2006 at 2:01 am

    Hi!

    Thanks in advance for anyone who has any insight! I just can’t seem to figure out what has happened here. I’ve captured thousands of hours of footage before no problem…

    I’m using FCP 4 HD and I am capturing footage shot in 24p.

    Capture settings are:

    Capture preset DV NTSC 48kHz
    Using DV Video for video input
    DCR-TRV900 using NTSC
    29.97 frames per second
    DV – NTSC at Best quality.
    24 bits per pixel
    720 by 480
    Using DV Audio for audio input
    Input: First 2 channels
    Rate: 48.000 kHz
    Speaker: off
    Volume: 100, Gain: 0

    The Captured Clip Information in the browser says that the frame size is 720 X 480 and the Vid Rate is 29.97.

    Now here’s the weird/frustrationg part. When I check out the info on the actual QT clip in the capture scratch it says:
    Format: DV, 720X480 (835 X 480)
    FPS: 29.96
    Normal Size: 853 x 480 pixels
    Current Size: 853 x 480 pixels (Actual)

    I’ve checked out other QT clips that I have captured in other projects and the Normal Size and the Current Size are both 720X480… I have also checked a clip of the same footage that was used in another project…

    I wonder if this is just a quicktime problem, and I shouldn’t worry. Everything looks fine in the FCP canvas and viewer and when I view it on a television through FCP.

    Thanks again!

    Alee1207 replied 19 years, 8 months ago 2 Members · 10 Replies
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  • Jeremy Garchow

    December 20, 2006 at 4:22 am

    Ignore the frame rate in quicktime. It is often wrong and definitely not exact.

    Your clips must be anamorphic, or they are tagged anamorphic. 853×480 is a 16:9 aspect ratio, while 720×480 is a 4:3 aspect ratio.

    Are you sure you didn’t use the DV anamorphic preset?

    Jeremy

  • Alee1207

    December 20, 2006 at 2:30 pm

    HI – thanks for your reply! I double checked that the clips are not being imported as DV anamorphic. They aren’t. I just watched most of the footage through FCP into the TV monitor and everything looks normal… correct aspect ratio… would you reimport??

    Subject: Re: quicktime problem – or something larger??

    Ignore the frame rate in quicktime. It is often wrong and definitely not exact.

    Your clips must be anamorphic, or they are tagged anamorphic. 853×480 is a 16:9 aspect ratio, while 720×480 is a 4:3 aspect ratio.

    Are you sure you didn’t use the DV anamorphic preset?

    Jeremy

  • Jeremy Garchow

    December 21, 2006 at 12:46 am

    No I wouldn’t reimport. You said that everything is working properly, correct? It’s only Quicktime that’s giving you goofy information. If it’s working properly in FCP, I’d leave it alone.

    jeremy

  • Alee1207

    December 21, 2006 at 1:18 am

    That’s what I figure. Interesting still is that through my experimenting I have captured various other clips from different sources/cameras and this problem is only happening when I capture something that was shot using the Panasonic DVX-100. (This has never happened before with this camera). Is it possible the QT and/or FCP are “reading” something from the tape that says it’s 16X9?? I’m going to reinstall FCP and see it that solves the problem. (I even moved a caputred clip over to another computer and still it opens it 16 X 9)

    Thanks again for your help

  • Jeremy Garchow

    December 21, 2006 at 1:38 am

    I really wouldn’t reinstall FCP. There is definitely an anamorphic flag in the footage. I don’t know if that info is stored on tape from a DVX100, it really wouldn’t surprise me. If you bring that clip into FCP, and look at it, is the canvas 16:9 or 4:3? If you load it into the viewer, which ratio is it? Look at the clip in the browser in list view, is the anamorphic box checked? What’s listed under aspect ratio? There is something that is missing from the workflow here. Try capturing one clip choosing the DV NTSC setup and tell me what happens.

    Jeremy

  • Alee1207

    December 21, 2006 at 2:29 am

    Hi again! So I answered your questions below.

    “I really wouldn’t reinstall FCP. There is definitely an anamorphic flag in the footage. I don’t know if that info is stored on tape from a DVX100, it really wouldn’t surprise me.”

    It’s strange though because I don’t even think that the camera shoots in 16×9.

    “If you bring that clip into FCP, and look at it, is the canvas 16:9 or 4:3?”
    it is 4:3

    “If you load it into the viewer, which ratio is it?”
    4:3

    “Look at the clip in the browser in list view, is the anamorphic box checked?”
    No

    “What’s listed under aspect ratio?”
    720 x 480/ 29.97 fps

    “There is something that is missing from the workflow here. Try capturing one clip choosing the DV NTSC setup and tell me what happens.”
    I have been using DV NTSC and it’s all of a sudden that this is going on. About a month ago was the last time I imported some of the exact same footage – and it’s Quicktime files play just fine….

    Arrrggg…. OH… AND…. I exported a QT file from the timeline and opened it up in QT and it’s fine. WTF???? What to do?

    Thanks again!

  • Jeremy Garchow

    December 21, 2006 at 2:36 am

    [alee1207] “It’s strange though because I don’t even think that the camera shoots in 16×9. “

    Yes, it does actually.

    If everything is fine, I say go with it.

    It’s not effecting your workflow.

    Jeremy

  • Alee1207

    December 21, 2006 at 2:44 am

    Thanks so much for your help!

  • Jeremy Garchow

    December 21, 2006 at 2:55 am

    You are aware that if you capture 4:3 anamorphic footage, without flagging ti anamorphic, FCP will display it as 4:3, correct? The only way it’ll display properly is if you flag it 16:9. One more test, check the anamorphic box in the browser, create an anamorphic timeline, and then tell me how the footage looks.

    Jeremy

  • Alee1207

    December 21, 2006 at 2:57 pm

    [JeremyG] “You are aware that if you capture 4:3 anamorphic footage, without flagging ti anamorphic, FCP will display it as 4:3, correct? The only way it’ll display properly is if you flag it 16:9. One more test, check the anamorphic box in the browser, create an anamorphic timeline, and then tell me how the footage looks.”

    Hi – In an anamorphic timeline, the footage looks the same but with bacl on the right and left. When exported as a quicktime, it is squeezed.

    It was not shoot in 16X9. And I even did another test with the DVX, same settings as usual (just shooting in 4:3) and still – the same thing…

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