Quicktime 7.4: Install at your peril.

[David Roth weiss]

[david bogie] “I’m on the side that is screaming “Apple really messed this up!””

Can you be more specific please???

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[Jeff Carpenter]

>>QT must be totally benign since it is the very foundation of all media on the Macintosh.
Quicktime must never be toxic.

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So when a security flaw is found…something that could be exploited by a hacker…what is Apple supposed to do? A fix could certainly affect programs that depend on that part of Quicktime. But Apple has no idea how other company’s programs are written. How could they?

So what’s the solution? Never fix flaws in Quicktime?

Clearly they can’t do that either. What WOULD be useful is if Quicktime saved ALL the .x updates within itself and you could just go into the menu and pick any of them whenever you want.

That would be super-useful. But to just say that Quicktime shouldn’t be toxic in the first place? Not possible.

[Gary Adcock]

[Jeff Carpenter] “So when a security flaw is found…something that could be exploited by a hacker…what is Apple supposed to do? A fix could certainly affect programs that depend on that part of Quicktime. But Apple has no idea how other company’s programs are written. How could they?”

security fixes are one thing, however the full release of 7.4 so that we can rent movies in itunes has reeked havoc on many computers– it even shut down my IoHD and Sata express card software after installing it, and it took me nearly 2 hours to get it up and running again

FCP is horrendously slow after the update, and unstable to the point of making FCP nearly unusable, and this is an all apple app.

As for apple not knowing how others write code? how about apple working with the 3rd parties so that items like this can me properly tested when a major change in the code is
being released.

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[Shane Ross]

Because QT has to cater not only to our editing needs, but also to the iPhone, iPod, web streaming, iTunes and iTunes rentals…they have a LOT of bases to cover. In my feeling, it is too wide. Trying to make it work with one thing only to break the CORE engine of their editing application is stupid. I could care less about movie rentals. I have Netflix and it is cheaper, better quality, AND DOESN’T MESS UP FINAL CUT PRO.

But I am still running 7.1.6 on my FCP 5.1 system, and QT 7.3 on my FCP 6 system (7.3 isn’t all that great either).

Shane

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[Bjørn Holmgren]

The quality control at Apple is quite bad at the moment. 10-bit rendering in Shake is still broken after nearly a year, and now this issue…
iTunes/iPhone/Movie rentals is probably more important to Apple than the Pro community.

[Aaron Neitz]

It becomes our duty as editors to give the evil eye to ALL Apple updates. And hope the other people in your office don’t blindly download every software update (which they do… and then it ruins everything)

FCP is increasingly an Avid like installation – there’s a specific series of drivers and versions that the software runs well on. Everything else is a crapshoot.

[David Bogie]

[Jeff Carpenter] “So when a security flaw is found…something that could be exploited by a hacker…what is Apple supposed to do? A fix could certainly affect programs that depend on that part of Quicktime. But Apple has no idea how other company’s programs are written. How could they?
So what’s the solution? Never fix flaws in Quicktime?
Clearly they can’t do that either. What WOULD be useful is if Quicktime saved ALL the .x updates within itself and you could just go into the menu and pick any of them whenever you want.
That would be super-useful. But to just say that Quicktime shouldn’t be toxic in the first place? Not possible.
“

Apple has built an empire that relies on QT. The underlying architecture is fragile. As Shane has pointed out, “Everything depends on QT!” and this is clearly a bad design decision for the customers of Apple. It is a flimsy base upon which to construct an empire. Unbundling would be very cool.

bogiesan

This is my standard sigfile so do not take it personally: “For crying out loud, read the freakin’ manual.”

[Jeff Carpenter]

By that logic we should all be running 4 different opperating systems on our computers. Kind of risky to depend on just one for everything.

Hmmm…on second thought, with 16 core computers just around the corner and virtualization programs springing up left and right, this might be what everyone will be doing in the future.

So ok, you might be on to something.

[Sean Oneil]

[Jeff Carpenter] “By that logic we should all be running 4 different opperating systems on our computers. Kind of risky to depend on just one for everything.

Hmmm…on second thought, with 16 core computers just around the corner and virtualization programs springing up left and right, this might be what everyone will be doing in the future. “

Well it’s the present and I’m running three operating systems ;D

Sean

[Jeremy Garchow]

There should be a Quicktime ProApps version.