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  • question on settings

    Posted by Matt Chapman on February 19, 2014 at 6:25 pm

    Hi everyone –
    I am a new premiere user, a longtime editor using Vegas. Now because of interoperability I am making the switch!

    I have a client requesting EDLs, and a couple very specific things. Because they are very high end I want to make sure that I have everything correct before I transfer.

    here is what they requested:

    •Project needs to be a 24fps project – so MPG is 24fps
    ◦MP4 (MPEG 4) is the best way for us to import the video file.
    •Header and Leader on all deliveries (2 pop and tail pop)
    •FFOA – first frame of action
    •LFOA – last frame of action

    • Explain any opticals you guys have created

    Most of that I understand, but the BOLD items I am a little unsure of. I “think” that the header and leader is a 5 second header followed by 2 seconds of silence. One audio pop comes at 1 second, and one audio pop comes at the beginning of the black screen.

    FFOA and LFOA… is that something that I would just note? Or is there a way to denote that INSIDE the project?

    thanks!
    matt

    Gary Milligan replied 12 years, 6 months ago 3 Members · 7 Replies
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  • José luis Martínez díaz

    February 19, 2014 at 9:00 pm

    The time between the LFOA and the LFOP used to be a ‘tail’ for the last shoot in the reel, so the reel change won’t eat up a dialog line or some Important action. The same wirh FFOP and FFOA You basically need to mark it so the reels, or virtual reels, has some point of reference.

  • Matt Chapman

    February 19, 2014 at 9:09 pm

    I’m actually more confused. The client didn’t request anything with a LFOP.

    What does that refer to?

  • José luis Martínez díaz

    February 19, 2014 at 9:33 pm

    Last Frame of Picture.

    They usually calculate it from the LFOA.

    What are you doing exactly?. Is your work to be organised in reels (20 mins) for kinescope or DCP?. multiplexing maybe?.

    They are basically asking you to mark which part of the video file is “your program” and which parts are “handles” to edit out the head and tails. These are concepta from taditional film editing, maybe in your country used for encapsullation and multiplexing, but without knowing what exactly are you doing, and what is you client intended to do with it, is hard to ellaborate.

  • Gary Milligan

    February 19, 2014 at 11:13 pm

    A Leader is a countdown, either from 10, 8, or 5 seconds before program start with a sync pop at the 2 sec. mark (2 pop) followed by black and silence. A tail pop comes at the end of the program (5-10 sec. after?) and is used as a sync check.

    I reserve the right to be wrong.

    HTH

    Gary

  • Matt Chapman

    February 20, 2014 at 4:59 am

    thanks guys. these are actually short programs for a pretty big studio, so I am certain there are some entrenched ancient editors over there who will reject anything that isn’t exactly perfect.

    The point is though, these aren’t settings that I can add in Premiere. For instance if they ask for FFOA should I set the timecode to start on the first frame?

    How would I do that? (since I’m down the rabbit hole…)

    chap

  • José luis Martínez díaz

    February 20, 2014 at 6:17 am

    Every country, facility and ‘ancient editor’ has their procedures and glitches. If they haven’t provided anything more specific, I’ll go for the standard:

    Here in Spain, I would simply add the leader, ten seconds of black just after the 2-pop, and sync the FFOA with the 1:00:00:00, so if your secuence would start at 00:59:40:00, adding 10 seconds countdown/2pop and 10 seconds black head will take you there.

    Adding a text slate (a simple text title 5 second) identifying the program, reel and tc where FFOA is is also a good idea.

  • Gary Milligan

    February 20, 2014 at 5:40 pm

    [matt chapman] “The point is though, these aren’t settings that I can add in Premiere.”

    I don’t know which version of Premiere you’re using but the current CC version has a Universal Counting Leader (complete with 2 pop) in the “New Item” list.

    Gary

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