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  • Question for Jeremy G- “audio set to visuals”?

    Posted by Dave Gage on May 31, 2012 at 3:58 am

    Jeremy,

    Over in the debate forum, in this thread:
    https://forums.creativecow.net/thread/335/35206#35576

    …you said,
    “No, it’s not an MTV music video, but it is a sequenced bed of audio set to visuals. A music video of a different format x3.”

    I have about 30 or so songs from the last few decades (mostly rock-blues instrumentals) I’d like to put up at Youtube. I don’t have the time to make “real” music videos with a story or shoot concert footage. I just need to get some songs up quick and dirty without resorting to a blank screen and I’m trying to avoid using the still photo Ken Burns approach (but I’ll likely use it on a few tracks).

    If you don’t mind, could you expand on what you meant by “audio set to visuals”? What kind of visuals?

    I’ve got a few ideas that will work, including what a lot of the VJ guys do when posting VJ Reels, which is using Visualizer plug-ins via iTunes. Actually, even the default iTunes visualizers are usable for a couple of tracks. But, I may be missing out on some other reasonably quick, easy methods for getting a bunch of songs up. So I thought I’d ask.

    Thanks,
    Dave

    Dave Gage replied 14 years, 2 months ago 4 Members · 15 Replies
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  • Dave Gage

    May 31, 2012 at 4:06 am

    I forgot to mention in the original post that I’ve been on FCP X since day 1, but started back on FCP 4.5. Certainly no pro, but I can do about anything I need to do at this point with the software.

    Oh, and although I called out Jeremy because of a previous post he made, if any one else has any ideas on how to make a relatively fast music video that goes beyond a black screen (and the Ken Burns effect), I’d love to hear it.

    Thanks,
    Dave

  • Bret Williams

    May 31, 2012 at 4:52 am

    I’ve been getting up to speed on Adobe CS6, and the automate to timeline, synced to markers function looks like an amazing method to do some of this. Basically, you put markers on the timeline in real time to the beat. Then highlight a bunch of clips in the bin and choose the automate to sequence icon. You can then choose to have the shots, pics, whatever you’ve selected sync up with the marks.

  • Dave Gage

    May 31, 2012 at 5:28 am

    Bret,

    That sounds like a very cool feature of PP6 and it’s a bit more difficult to do in FCPX, but I could do it there also by manually clicking through with markers on down beats and then matching footage to the markers with snapping on. My big problem at the moment is finding the footage to cut in with the movie. I have a long list of my own “stock” footage I’d like to shoot, but I don’t have the time at the moment to get it shot.

    This is why I’ve been looking at the free and paid visualizers as mediocre eye candy that’s better than a blank screen. I just can’t help thinking though that I’m missing something obvious to add as visuals.

    I do realize that Motion 5 could create some cool stuff and Ripple Training has excellent tutorials, but I don’t have the time for the learning curve right now.

    Thanks,
    Dave

  • Jeremy Garchow

    May 31, 2012 at 11:31 am

    Hey, Dave.

    That post was a response to an art installation that was posted.

    We were discussing if something like what was shown could be edited in X. It certainly wasn’t a quick way of adding a visual to some music, unfortunately. This was a lot of work.

    To answer your question, I’m not really sure what you’re going for, but if you want something random to put up there, FCPX has quite a few generators that will add some texture, but it will most likely be cheesy and unrelated to the music.

    Is this music you’ve produced? If it is, any label art, or cover art would work. Even just the name of the band.

    When I look for music and sometimes find it on YouTube, I find that the simpler the effort, the better as really, it’s about the music, but maybe that’s just my personal preference.

    Do you have any media at all that pertains directly to the music?

  • Dave Gage

    May 31, 2012 at 8:52 pm

    [Jeremy Garchow]
    That post was a response to an art installation that was posted.”

    When you finish and if you make it public, I’d love to take a look.

    [Jeremy Garchow] “FCPX has quite a few generators that will add some texture, but it will most likely be cheesy and unrelated to the music.”
    Yes, I have enough tunes I’d like to crank out that I will likely go that route also. The more ideas I can muster up the better at this point.

    [Jeremy Garchow] “Is this music you’ve produced? If it is, any label art, or cover art would work. Even just the name of the band.”
    Yes, some is band stuff and the rest I’ve produced myself. I don’t have much to go on with cover art, but a few of the songs will come from past released albums. It is a good idea though as I can go back through some of the photo shoots and pull out some photos I’ve likely forgotten about. A lot of that stuff is from the 80’s and 90’s and low-res compared to today’s standards, but I can add some effects of top to make it look more like “intentional art”.

    [Jeremy Garchow]
    Do you have any media at all that pertains directly to the music?”

    Sadly, not very much. We didn’t really think about video taping our shows back then and as I said in the first post, a lot of what I want to put up is instrumental stuff that I’ve produced post-band days (rock-blues music with a dance beat and lead harmonica which sounds more like rock guitar then standard harmonica).

    Thanks,
    Dave

    P.S. I have a couple of other off-topic questions I’d like to ask if you don’t mind in the post below this one.

  • Dave Gage

    May 31, 2012 at 8:59 pm

    Jeremy (or actually anyone),

    I’ve been around video now long enough that I understand most of what is discussed, but occasionally I get tripped up by non-defined acronyms that can’t find with a google search.

    In this thread- https://forums.creativecow.net/thread/335/34096#34787
    …you and others mention PIOPs and IOPs. I’m guessing that these relate to In and Out Points, but I’m not sure and I have no idea what the first “P” would be.

    Thanks,
    Dave

  • Jeremy Garchow

    May 31, 2012 at 9:24 pm

    [Dave Gage] “When you finish and if you make it public, I’d love to take a look.”

    I was actually responding to someone who had posted it, it’s not mine. 🙂

    We were talking about if this installation (a multichannel video) could be edited in FCPX. Some say yes, some say no way.

    Here it is: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CRszAGAXDY8

    [Dave Gage] “Yes, some is band stuff and the rest I’ve produced myself. I don’t have much to go on with cover art, but a few of the songs will come from past released albums. It is a good idea though as I can go back through some of the photo shoots and pull out some photos I’ve likely forgotten about. A lot of that stuff is from the 80’s and 90’s and low-res compared to today’s standards, but I can add some effects of top to make it look more like “intentional art”.”

    Now you’re thinking. And have you seen Youtube? It’s not exactly the highest quality deliverable, even if you deliver high quality. 😉

    Jeremy

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  • Jeremy Garchow

    May 31, 2012 at 9:25 pm

    [Dave Gage] “you and others mention PIOPs and IOPs”

    Persistent In and Out Points.

    In and Out Points.

    It was a shorthand that Walter Soyka came up with instead of typing persistent in and out points over and over.

    Jeremy

  • Dave Gage

    June 1, 2012 at 12:50 am

    [Jeremy Garchow]
    It was a shorthand that Walter Soyka came up with instead of typing persistent in and out points over and over.”

    Ah ha, and the reason I’m not a big fan of acronyms.

    Speaking of Favorites and setting In and Out points, clearly a big feature request is the ability to export from the timeline with In and Out points without using the workaround of copying and pasting into a new Project and exporting from there. But, I don’t remember seeing anyone asking for the ability to right-click on a favorite and export only that portion of a clip.

    I know the same workaround would work, but it would be nice to also be able to create one’s own sub-clips this way for numerous reasons including not worrying about overlapping favorites on one clip. Would this be another feature request or have I missed others talking about it?

    Thanks,
    Dave

  • Dave Gage

    June 1, 2012 at 1:12 am

    [Jeremy Garchow] “We were talking about if this installation (a multichannel video) could be edited in FCPX. Some say yes, some say no way.”
    Okay, I did see that video from the original thread, but I thought you said you were working on something yourself with visuals. I may have not read it correctly.

    [Jeremy Garchow] “And have you seen Youtube? It’s not exactly the highest quality deliverable, even if you deliver high quality. ;)”
    Yep, but even as a quickie job, I hope I can at least slightly exceed the lowest common denominator videos out there. Some of the reason I’m putting these up is personal, but mostly it’s for my website businesses and will hopefully help drive some traffic.

    Thanks again,
    Dave

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