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  • Question about Masking, Illu-Paths, Virtual Camera, Multiple Instances of one movie-file and Zooming

    Posted by Dino Muhic on May 29, 2006 at 10:56 am

    Ok people, I’m new here, but I’m reading the articles already for months.

    My question is related to a project I have to do for my university.
    To understand my question better I made sth like a storyboard for the animation I want to make with AE.

    Here it is:

    https://www.bootlegversion.de/NEWSITE/hdastoryb.jpg

    OK Lets say the girl is a standart PAL movie file. First you see the movie in the normal resolution.
    Than the virtual cemera ZOOMS OUT and you see that the movie is actually in a circle mask. Then the camera stills zooms out and you see that there are a lot of these movies in circle masks and they are all playing the same file BUT time shifted (lets say for example 5 seconds shift).
    The virtual camera is zooming out all the time until you see that the small circles are part of a logo of our university. So the small movies make the logo at the end of the movie.

    Now HOW can I make such animation? I first tried to add the movie several times into the stage and made it teeny weenie small and then used the virtual camera to zoom in again but the movie was downsampled and was just too blurred.

    How would you make such an animation? It doesn’t have to be longer than 10 seconds. In my example-storyboard the camera is Zooming out in a constant speed and always straight forward. My final product will also have some camera slides to the side to give it a not so static feel. But this isnt important for now.

    If you have some time,i really would appreciate if you could help me or even make an example file…

    thank you

    Cletus

    Dino Muhic replied 19 years, 11 months ago 4 Members · 5 Replies
  • 5 Replies
  • Mylenium

    May 29, 2006 at 4:10 pm

    Unlikely that you will be able to pull it off like this. Actually most of this sort of stuff isn’t any real zooming, it’s more animating the footage. To get grids of temporally different footage snippets use the Temporal Displacement effect fed with e.g. a Mosaic grid applied to your circles. Do that in a sub-comp and then use this one in your main comp. Don’t use it as a 3D layer, as the oversampling will make everything blurry, just scale it normally or distort it into perspective using the Trandsform effect or Corner Pin. you should also consider building different comps for diifferent zoom levels and add invisible crossfades where appropriate to maintain even more quality.

    Mylenium

    [Pour Myl

  • Steve Roberts

    May 29, 2006 at 4:19 pm

    Hmm … how about positioning multiple copies of the footage in 3D space (staggered with the sequence layers effect), along with multiple copies of a single circle-masked solid, then pulling back the 3D camera?

    That way, there aren’t any layers larger than the footage layer slowing down the render.

    It might work …

  • Dino Muhic

    May 29, 2006 at 5:46 pm

    Hmm….sounds easier than myleniums version. Thank you very much! Both of you!
    But first I have to look what the sequence layers tool is….I’m still learning AE.

    I forgot to mention, that the logo of the university is a EPS-File for Adobe Illustrator and I can import all shapes from Illustrator to AE if I want to.
    I tried to use the paths of the logo as a mask but I still don’t have a clue how to go on with this.
    I think it also has to be in a 3D-Area because of the motion the layers have when they are moving away from the camera.

    I’ll search now for some material about the sequence layer stuff

    Thank you and if you have more suggestions, please write them!

  • Annaël Beauchemin

    May 29, 2006 at 8:05 pm

    [Mylenium] “Don’t use it as a 3D layer, as the oversampling will make everything blurry, just scale it normally or distort it into perspective using the Trandsform effect or Corner Pin.”

    from my experience the corner pin effect of AE makes the footage blurry. In other compositing apps, it’s much sharper. It’s also pretty slow…

  • Dino Muhic

    May 30, 2006 at 3:27 pm

    Yeah, I think I’ll use the footage several times at the stage and postition them exactly like the dots in the logo. Then I’ll enable the movie clips into 3D and pull the camera back until the movies are as small as the dots. For the time offset the sequence layers method is great. Just have to loop the footage several times so it doesn’t quit playing when the movie is still running.

    I’m just afraid that something terrible could happen with my Laptop while producing, because there have to be about 250 layers in the movie (for each dot in the logo one time the movie). Can this damage my laptop or does it just take more time (time doesn’t matter)?

    Or is there a way to do it faster and without to position every movie like the dots in the logo?

    Is there a fast way to make something like a GRID-Structure with the movie, lets say 50 Rows and 40 Collums? and then just turning on and off the movies i need? This way would be great, because I could also use other figures displayed by the dots…

    Can you help me….again?

    I’m a professional in Photoshop, for every help you give me I can help you in PS…

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