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Steve Connor
December 17, 2014 at 8:01 am[Aindreas Gallagher] “honest to god but come on. who doesn’t know where ppro has gone?
why do people think (local shortform) disney, and viacom, and bbc worldwide, and ITV studios (actually for ITV the whole barn) nominated Adobe Premiere Pro going forward.
it is the proposed future editing system. ITV just flushed avid down the toilet. ppro will eat into long form over the next half decade.
that is what that is. X is a foreign exchange student, as it ever was.
“So you’ve come to terms with your decision to become an Adobe renter then?
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Eric Santiago
December 17, 2014 at 2:15 pm[Andrew Kimery] “It was EOL’d over 3 years ago (the last major update was over 7 years ago!) and it’s still a very widely used NLE “
Same feeling back in the day (in my parts) when Meridien Avid was holding its own.
With the cheaper FCP then FCP Studio released, a ton of shops in my parts hung on to the stable un-updated Avid MC w/Meridien.
Took awhile for them to finally move on into Nitris.
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Herb Sevush
December 17, 2014 at 2:37 pm[Scott Witthaus] “How different is CC from CS6?”
How different was FCP 3 to FCP 5? I couldn’t do my work properly with CS6, I could with CC (7) and CC 2014 is a huge improvement again. They are really actively hunting out bugs and bad workflow issues, it’s getting to the point where I’m not missing the FCP7 timeline anymore, + the additional tools (integration with AE and Audition) are superb.
And I must mention the scaling in Ppro – in FCP I was reluctant to go above 105%.I would go to 105-110% if I had to and beyond that – forget it. With Ppro I feel comfortable scaling up to 120% – even 125% with the addition of the sharpening filter – this ability to reframe even without 4K material is fantastic. We shoot multicam and often (thanks to 16×9 aspect ratio) I get a nose from one chef peaking into the cu of another chef. Now with Ppro I think nothing of scaling up the shot to get rid of the offending proboscis. The sharpening filter has saved me from a camera with a slightly off back-focus, bringing the foreground object into enough apparent sharpness to save the shot.
There are still a number of small things I miss from Legend, but I’m very happy with the move to Adobe. I still don’t like subscription, but as the song says, “you can’t always…”
Herb Sevush
Zebra Productions
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Scott Witthaus
December 17, 2014 at 3:12 pm[Aindreas Gallagher] “honest to god but come on. who doesn’t know where ppro has gone?”
Gee Aindreas, I guess I am the last to know. PP in CS6 is not a good editor (imho). Slow, clunky compared to X. Bins? Tracks? Slows the process way down in comparison. I use X on a daily basis and when I have to hop over to PP, I feel like I am stuck in mud. I have no incentive to move forward with PP unless CC is MUCH better and there was a demand for me to be using it. My clients allow me to use what I feel is best for them.
I don’t use Photoshop or AE enough to subscribe and take on PP as an afterthought part of the package. CS6 is adequate for the light use I give them. Therefore my question. Maybe there is a free trial of CC I can try, but there seems to be no pressing need to do it.
I also have no real interest in what ITV and other large scale broadcast chop-shops use. That niche means nothing to my niche as that workflow means nothing to mine.
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Scott Witthaus
Senior Editor/Post Production Supervisor
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Jeremy Garchow
December 17, 2014 at 4:51 pm -
Timothy Auld
December 17, 2014 at 11:11 pm17% is a hefty number, unscientific or not. The foundation is unquestionably there. And while it doesn’t work for me in most situations I have to deal with at present, FCPX would work for nicely for many documentarians I know. I used to wonder whether Apple could get FCPX up to working in high end situations. But the high end is a very small space that they clearly (and probably rightly) don’t care about. If Apple weren’t so intransigent about not being able to turn off the magnetic timeline they would most likely own all markets at this point. PP CC would not even exist.
Tim
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