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PS to AE to AVID!!
Posted by Greg Ekborg on April 26, 2005 at 11:01 pmI did a search and didn’t find a work around for this problem, so I apologize in advance if this is redundant.
Here are two images exported from AE and then from AVID. As you will see the difference, please help me get them both to look like the AE one. Even when viewed as a .mov file before import into Avid, it looks great. Please don’t be offended by the words, it is a play about the Vagina Monologues. lol
first image: https://www.dstudios.net/vagina/sample_graphics_ae.jpg
bad image: https://www.dstudios.net/vagina/sample_graphics_avid.jpgThese are stills taken out of a motion background and intro segment.
Annaël Beauchemin replied 21 years ago 3 Members · 5 Replies -
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Dom Silverio
April 27, 2005 at 5:19 pmYou are basically seeing the destructive powers of DV25 compression.
If you have Xpress Pro HD you can import it as DV50 which significantly improves picture quality. If you have Mojo, you can import it as uncompress which is further improvement compared to DV50, especially DV25. -
Greg Ekborg
April 28, 2005 at 1:27 amI totally understand that, but I have never seen this before when importing something from AE. I have imported motion background and text motion for several years now and have never seen this issue. So I was wondering if it has anything to do with it being a native .psd composition in AE? Everthing was antialiased and whatnot, and export was uncompressed, or animation compressed or dv compressed. None of them are working. The strange thing is that when viewed as a .mov file before importing it to AVID, it looks great as well. I have tried all the different field interpretations and orders yet, still it looks horrible. I can’t turn in this project like that as you can see. lol
Is there any setting or import setting I might be forgetting? Is there any work around to get this back to clean?
Greg
Creative Director
https://www.deCONSTRUCTstudios.com
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Greg Ekborg
April 28, 2005 at 11:57 pmI have tried single and lower, I usually do progressive 720×480 dv compression out of AE then single into Avid. I tried lower and lower on both export from AE and import for AVID, and that didn’t work either. I figured that upper and upper wouldn’t do anything different. I will try that as well. But the stump here is that this hasn’t ever been an issue before. I don’t know of anything that I have changed or is different for past exports and imports. I am becoming very flustered with this. Should I try to rebuild everything again and start over? Should I try to build it from within AE and not import a native .psd composition? I don’t know man, I am just at a loss with this.
I can definitely tell that this is infact a field issue by the lines its creating. But the clincher is that in a .mov file viewed alone before import into AVID, its clean, so the logical element would be the import process of AVIDS importing is the issue here. If you export progressive fields shouldn’t you import single field? I have been told that dv footage exported at 720×480 should be progressive and sinlge not separated at lower or upper. Only suppost to separate it if its at 720×486. And that has worked til now. Is this a wrong procedure? One single standard or guideline would be nice. This dv fields things is starting to get me confused on the correct processes!! I know I should know more, but I went by what I was taught in school several years back and its worked before. Like when I render an effect to 720×480 from Digital Juice, if you use lower fields, it looks horrible, but if you use progressive it looks like its intended form.
I guess this is a case for learning up on more technology huh. We are never done learning, its just that there doesn’t seem to be any standards to go off of.
Greg
Creative Director
https://www.deCONSTRUCTstudios.com
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Annaël Beauchemin
May 2, 2005 at 9:05 amseems like you’ve got the wrong import settings… all things imported from AE or PS should be interpreted as RGB, not 601.
and even then, a slight shift in chroma/luma is inevitable since you are converting the color space.
it also seems to me that there is something wrong in your fields settings. You need to turn on field rendering in AE and set it to lower (for NTSC). Then make sure you import settings match… RGB color, 601 non-square aspect ratio, lower field.
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