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  • PrPro CS5.5 totally unstable

    Posted by Michael Sacci on September 1, 2011 at 10:37 pm

    I’m coming from FCP because I have to edit H.264 files. All I’m going it resizing it fit delivery specs. Right now I have no control over the codec used to deliver to me.

    I’m receiving the files that are already compressed for the web. All I need to do is edit out bars, slate and commercials. For right now I have to resize the video also but that step is going away. I bring in about 20-50 clips into PP, then I make a standardized sequence for each clip, edit, export to Que (media encoder). Before long the project file starts crashing, on open, on edit, on movie clips or seq to new bins, looking at it with my left eye only, you name it I do it, it crashes.

    I was running it on an older 2.4Ghz Core2Duo MBP but now using my 2011 MPB 2.2Gz i7, 8GB of memory. OS is 10.6.8 PP is CS5.5 with all updates. Both systems have the same issues. Files are on a FW800 drive. Don’t really need playback quality.

    Any suggestions?

    Below is media info file from what I’m starting with.
    General / Container Stream #1
    Total Video Streams for this File……………..1
    Total Audio Streams for this File……………..1
    Video Codecs Used……………………………AVC
    Audio Codecs Used……………………………AAC LC
    File Format…………………………………MPEG-4
    Play Time…………………………………..24mn 14s
    Total File Size……………………………..269 MiB
    Total Stream BitRate…………………………1 551 Kbps
    Encoded with………………………………..Lavf53.6.0
    Video Stream #1
    Codec (Human Name)…………………………..AVC
    Codec (FourCC)………………………………avc1
    Codec Profile……………………………….Main@L3.0
    Frame Width…………………………………720 pixels
    Frame Height………………………………..406 pixels
    Frame Rate………………………………….29.970 fps
    Total Frames………………………………..43587
    Display Aspect Ratio…………………………16:9
    Scan Type…………………………………..Progressive
    Color Space…………………………………YUV
    Codec Settings (Summary)……………………..1 Ref Frames
    QF (like Gordian Knot)……………………….0.171
    Codec Settings (CABAC)……………………….No
    Codec Settings (Reference Frames)……………..1
    Video Stream Length………………………….24mn 14s 354ms
    Video Stream BitRate…………………………1 500 Kbps
    Video Stream BitRate Mode…………………….VBR
    Bit Depth…………………………………..8 bits
    Video Stream Size……………………………254 MiB (95%)
    Video Encoder……………………………….x264 – core 116 r2019 9cc407d
    Video Encoder (Settings)……………………..cabac=0 / ref=1 / deblock=1:0:0 / analyse=0x1:0x11 / me=dia / subme=7 / psy=1 / psy_rd=1.00:0.00 / mixed_ref=0 / me_range=4 / chroma_me=1 / trellis=2 / 8x8dct=0 / cqm=0 / deadzone=21,11 / fast_pskip=1 / chroma_qp_offset=-2 / threads=1 / sliced_threads=0 / nr=0 / decimate=1 / interlaced=0 / bluray_compat=0 / constrained_intra=0 / bframes=0 / weightp=2 / keyint=250 / keyint_min=25 / scenecut=40 / intra_refresh=0 / rc_lookahead=40 / rc=abr / mbtree=1 / bitrate=1500 / ratetol=1.0 / qcomp=0.60 / qpmin=10 / qpmax=51 / qpstep=3 / vbv_maxrate=1750 / vbv_bufsize=4000 / nal_hrd=none / ip_ratio=1.41 / aq=1:1.00
    Audio Stream #1
    Codec………………………………………AAC
    Codec (FourCC)………………………………40
    Audio Stream Length………………………….24mn 14s 378ms
    Audio Stream BitRate…………………………78.7 Kbps
    Audio Stream BitRate Mode…………………….VBR
    Number of Audio Channels……………………..1
    Audio Channel’s Positions…………………….Front: C
    Sampling Rate……………………………….48.0 KHz
    Audio Stream Size……………………………13.6 MiB (5%)

    Michael Sacci replied 14 years, 7 months ago 4 Members · 6 Replies
  • 6 Replies
  • Michael Sacci

    September 1, 2011 at 10:53 pm

    Here are my sequence settings

  • Paul Jay

    September 2, 2011 at 7:23 am

    Although current limitations on some levels.
    Fcpx is a dream with H264.
    I also have terrible experience with h264 on ppro cs5.5.

  • Michael Sacci

    September 3, 2011 at 7:43 pm

    not an option. They set me up with a PC now.

    Also find FCP X to Blog down very quickly. It doesn’t work in non broadcast resolutions.

  • Adam Palmer

    September 15, 2011 at 2:25 pm

    A bit of a late response here, but I find with Premiere that if you happen to have a file that’s corrupted, even if it’s just one, it can really screw up the whole project.

    Try batch encoding all your raw/input footage to a lossless codec, my favorite on the windows platform is lagarith ( https://lags.leetcode.net/codec.html )

    then simply replace all your footage in the project with the re-rendered proxies. This method has saved me many times. After Effects is a pretty good batch encoder if Premiere is still giving trouble.

    Good luck!

  • Mark Tucker

    September 27, 2011 at 3:15 pm

    Hi Guys.
    I maybe a little late on this one-
    I’m running CS4 having had issues with CS5 so I reverted… But hey! CS4/PC is also flaky as ****. It’s never worked properly and I’m really pissed off having thought it was going to blow my older FCP system on a Mac Dual 1.25 G5 into touch. Oh how wrong I was and it’s cost me over £5K!
    Michael, I’ve heard that Bridge is good for batch/sizing etc processing files…
    Adam, I chased your threads over the net…I am experiencing very similar problems now…Oh the horrors of Adobe Premiere. It’s costing me big time.
    Paul, I’ve similar problems with CS4/H.264.
    M.

    Bla Bla Bla

  • Michael Sacci

    September 27, 2011 at 10:02 pm

    Sorry for not posting my final findings.

    Adam, when the files were not corrupt, they where not well liked. The guy that set up the encoder was making everything 720×406 and some had 4 channels of audio. Premiere didn’t like this very much. I keep asking for normal video resolutions and not getting them. Finally after weeks of the home office calling Adobe and them trying all type of things, countless reinstalls, only a single sequence in a project, total workflow busters, they changed the resolution to 720×480 and all is fine. Rock solid.

    While I still like FCP better, it would not work for this workflow at all, I have to say PP to Media Encoder is AWESOME! The smoothness of integration is get the start. The fact that there is no link between PP and Media Encoder once the file is received makes it so much more usable.

    I just need to totally remap the keyboard to what I’m familiar with and it will be golden.

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