PrP CS5 Aliased video in Program monitor

[Tapio Haaja]

Well I’ve used Premiere CS5.5 on different MacPros and Macbook Pros and noticed this thing that some codecs (Prores, Quicktime DV…) look pixelated on program monitor. And yes I’m having full resolution turned on. It looks like scaling is done in some very poor nearest neighbor algorithm. But then for example all MPEG2, H264 material look great. Even Quicktime IMX (but that’s also MPEG2) look great. I think this got something to do that Premiere has to use Quicktime for runninc some codecs such as Prores. And MPEG2 is run by it’s own engine. Just guessing.

But yeah this problem is real and I’ve seen it on many machines. Of course some people doesn’t care. They can still edit even with little bit pixelated program monitor and export doesn’t anyway have this problem.

Best
Tapio Haaja

On-Air Promotion Producer
https://avseikkailuja.blogspot.com/

[Tim Kolb]

[Jake McCurdy] ” I just don’t think PrP is quite ‘professional’ enough for me. I don;t understand how they can get After Effects so right and PrP so wrong. Pr was the first editor I used back in 92-93′ when I was in middle school. How can the simplest things still be screwed up almost 20 years later?”

Um…I think you’ve got a pretty good crop of assumptions going there… I see a lot of people coming to PPro and assuming the fact it’s not FCP is a bug…it isn’t.

A quad core CPU isn’t exactly a power house these days (my laptop has 16 GB RAM and a hyperthreaded i7 Quad), but this wouldn’t be an issue caused by CPUs, plentiful or not…it could be a GPU issue though… what kind of display card you have installed?

Adobe does a lot to adapt to ancient, 32 bit QuickTime. Do non-QT codecs have an issue? FCP 7 is still 32 bit, so QT works fine in that.

TimK,
Director, Consultant
Kolb Productions,

Adobe Certified Instructor

[Stephen Vidano]

Why won’t Adobe respond on this issue?

It’s SOOO frustrating.

Stephen Vidano
TuneSociety.com
“Set Your Music Free”

[Jon Barrie]

Is the sequence square pixels?

If not the anamorphic stretch is all you are seeing.

JB

Jon Barrie
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[Stephen Vidano]

Jon Barrie,

Yep. Square pixels.

Again…the settings seem to be accurate. But there are posts all over on this issue.

I’m not sure how Adobe can get away with letting a codec look crappy during edit. Especially when picky clients and directors are looking over our shoulders all the time.

I’ve been searching all over the forums to figure out how to edit my ProRes footage in PP and make it look good. The only option I’ve come up with is to “modify / interpret” the actual source footage in PP (in the project window) and make it field dominant. When I do it this looks GREAT on the timeline…but all of a sudden now I have a RED BAR making it much more difficult for PP to process and play the footage. If I DON’T interpret the footage in my project window then there is no colored bar at all in my time line (which is super awesome)…BUT my footage looks “pixelated” or “jagged” on the edges of objects in the frame. And yes my playback resolution is set on FULL, and my sequence settings are correct.

So…

** There are 2 issues that make this a bummer / deal breaker for me.

1 – I REALLY want to use ProRes footage…but how can I edit with ProRes footage that looks low resolution (looking at my program or timeline monitor), when I have a client looking over my shoulder scrutinizing everything that is on the screen?

I understand that when I export the time line (or render the movie), it will not look “jagged” on objects. But that is no way to edit…especially if I am required to make “objective calls” and judgements on my edit and the quality of the show while I am editing.

2 – Based on all of this information that I have listed above…I would think that you WOULD NOT want to choose the option to export based on the “Use Previews” check box. If all of my ProRes footage looks jagged in the playback / previews on my time line in PP…then wouldn’t your final export movie look like crap as well if you exported by checking the “Use Previews” check box?

So…I’m in the middle of switching somewhere from FCP 7. I won’t be using FCP X. But, I am REALLY searching for an answer to my workflow…and to editing my ProRes movie in PP with out it looking pixelated.

Is there ANY SOLUTION to this issue at all? Am I totally missing some option that would clear all of this up for me?

Any help would be GREATLY appreciated.

Stephen Vidano
TuneSociety.com
“Set Your Music Free”