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ProRes Recapture
Posted by M.d. Welch on February 12, 2009 at 10:47 pmOK, I have looked around and cannot find anything on this subject.
When I capture a project in HDV settings in Easy Setup and then delete the media files once the project is done, I can recapture those files by putting the tape in the deck, right click on the offline media and do a batch capture. No problem.
Why can’t I do this when I use the ProRes setting in Easy setup? I dump the media, go to batch capture the files and the deck just starts recording at the current point. Is this ProRes’ major downfall.
I am at a total loss.
Thanks
M.D.
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Walter Biscardi
February 12, 2009 at 11:00 pmHave you look at Chris Poisson’s HDV to ProRes tutorial? It’s in the Cow Tutorials section.
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Chris Poisson
February 12, 2009 at 11:15 pmM.D.,
I don’t think there’s an answer for this in my tutorial, but I think it’s a limitation of how the HDV-ProRes caption window works. It does not handle batches, it is a capture now function at this point in time. It may be able to do this in future versions, but for now it’s kinda primitive.
Have a wonderful day.
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Andrew Kimery
February 12, 2009 at 11:35 pmYes, this a pitfall to capturing HDV as ProRes via FW. Those ProRes files are essentially your new masters because it is limited to “capture now” and no source TC is recorded. Also, in my experience HDV has been problematic when trying to get frame accurate recaptures even when editing natively.
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M.d. Welch
February 13, 2009 at 12:07 amIs there anyway to have my cake and eat it too? I like how HDV can recreate a project that I have removed the media for, but I love my options with ProRes.
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Walter Biscardi
February 13, 2009 at 12:46 am[M.D. Welch] “Is there anyway to have my cake and eat it too? I like how HDV can recreate a project that I have removed the media for, but I love my options with ProRes”
Yep, get a Kona card. You can capture your HDV to any format. DVCPro HD, ProRes or even Uncompressed HD. This is what we do with all our HDV footage.
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Ron Craig
February 13, 2009 at 6:03 amHi Walter,
I haven’t done any work with HDV yet — all DVCPRO-HD — but I’m going to be getting an HDV project soon. I have a Kona 3 card. How do you capture HDV with your Kona card? There must be a deck that I don’t have that will give you something other than a Firewire out I guess, huh?
Thanks.
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Stuart Simpson
February 13, 2009 at 9:55 am[Ron Craig] “There must be a deck that I don’t have that will give you something other than a Firewire out I guess, huh? “
We use one of these with our Kona3:
HDSDI out goes straight into the Kona with firewire for device control.
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Walter Biscardi
February 13, 2009 at 1:48 pm[Ron Craig] “There must be a deck that I don’t have that will give you something other than a Firewire out I guess, huh? “
There’s several from Sony that give you either Component or HD-SDI outputs directly from the deck.
In our case we’re running the basic Sony M15U with Component output. The video and audio output of that deck passes through an AJA HD10AVA converter which then gives me an HD-SDI stream with embedded audio. Works great.
If I were to purchase a new HDV deck today, I would go with one that has RS-422 control instead of Firewire. That’s about the only complaint as the FW control can be a bit slow to log footage.
Walter Biscardi, Jr.
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Chris Poisson
February 13, 2009 at 3:38 pmNote that some cameras have component out, so you won’t need a deck. With some, you can still control the camera via FireWire at the same time.
Have a wonderful day.
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Mark Maness
February 13, 2009 at 4:06 pm[walter biscardi] “If I were to purchase a new HDV deck today, I would go with one that has RS-422 control instead of Firewire. That’s about the only complaint as the FW control can be a bit slow to log footage.
“Amen, Brother!!! I’ll second that frustration.
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