ProRes 422 project is half a terabyte!

[David Roth weiss]

Steve,
Honestly, with terrific 500gb SATA drives available for only $60, it\’s hard to understand how a payed professional editor can gripe about storage these days.

Get yourself an inexpensive FireWire enclosure ($50) that takes SATA drives, drop in a 500Gb SATA drive, and bill your
client for the cost. This is what everyone else does.

David Roth Weiss
Director/Editor/Colorist
David Weiss Productions, Inc.
Los Angeles

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[Steve Cornell]

Hi David,
I recently bought a 2 terabyte external drive and its full already with these ProRes jobs. I do weddings videography and can’t really bill brides for storage; I wish I could. I’m not familiar with firewire enclosures but I’ll do some research. Any links to what you use/recommend ?

Any harm in deleting everything in the render files directory ? I”m referring to ‘archived’ projects not projects that I”m currently working on.

Side question: I’ve discovered Motion gradients as a way to do color. Back in FCP, the render times are a killer. I’ve tried sending clips to motion and then applying gradients. I’ve also tried exporting a custom gradient from Motion to FCP and then overlaying that gradient on top of clips . Either way, the slightest change in the timeline and I’ve got a huge render time ahead of me.

thanks.

[Zane Barker]

If a client want you to be able to continuly be able to edit a project for them long term then the client needs to pay for your storage needs.

Hindsight is always 1080p

[Andy Mees]

You can pick up a 500 GB disc for under 50 bucks these days … if your client wants to retain the option to revisit the project at a later date then just charge them accordingly for the short term storage. Just remember to pop the bare drive in an enclosure once every 6 months or so and spin it up. Consider getting a bare drive dock and some antistatic drive cases for storage … you can factor all this into the cost.

If thats not an option then one easy way you can reduce storage requirements is by simply deleting all media from the Z1 as that can easily be recaptured from the original HDV source tapes which you would also retain (I assume you followed proper practice and captured with reel and timecode such that the footage could be recaptured at latter date).

Best
Andy

[Zane Barker]

For things like wedding videos once the client has given the final approval, deliver the DVDs make a maker for yourself and delete it. Why keep it.

If you don’t want to del eat it then you need to buy more hard drives.

Hindsight is always 1080p

[Steve Cornell]

Thanks Andy. Any drive docks you recommend ?

[David Roth weiss]

OWC has some awesome SATA enclosures, and it’s extremely simple to drop in a bare drive, move media onto the drive, and then put the bare drive on the shelf. Knowing how to do this will empower you.

As far as rendering gradients is concerned, what you’re encountering is the price that must be paid when every pixel of every frame changes over time. These types of renders are the most processor intensive of all renders, and at this point in time, only faster processors will cut that time down.

David Roth Weiss
Director/Editor/Colorist
David Weiss Productions, Inc.
Los Angeles

POST-PRODUCTION WITHOUT THE USUAL INSANITY ™

EPK Colorist – UP IN THE AIR – nominated for six academy awards

A forum host of Creative COW’s Apple Final Cut Pro, Business & Marketing, Indie Film & Documentary, and Film History & Appreciations forums.

[Steve Eisen]

David told you OWC. Look no further than the NewerTech Voyager Q.

Steve Eisen
Eisen Video Productions
Vice President
Chicago Final Cut Pro Users Group

[Robb Harriss]

That’s what I’m using, with the eSata connection to the Mac Pro. OWC sells an extension cable that connects to an open internal SATA connection on the logic board and leads to an external connection plate on the back of the machine. 500 gig drives for cheap. I use it for backup.
You know, you could use LT instead of full ProRes 422. We work in proxy and then reload the final show in ProRes 422 or HQ. We start with 40 or 50 hours of footage that’s whittled down to 20 or 30 minutes in the end.

Non-linear: all the time and nothing but.

[Steve Cornell]

Has anybody tried a program from cineform called ‘neoscene’ ? I read that it can transcode AVCHD files and if you choose the ‘cineform’ output, the filesize is much smaller that ProRes. They offer a free trial so I’ll test that out.

I’m also testing media manager as a way to reduce project size.

You guys are right, I’m going to invest in some bare drives as a way to archive projects.