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  • ProRes 422 — a bad name

    Posted by David Roth weiss on June 4, 2007 at 12:06 am

    Apple could have avoided all this confusion about ProRes 422 if they had simply named it “MacPro-Res422”. Oh well, maybe next time they’ll ask me… :} :} :}

    David Roth Weiss
    Director/Editor/Post-production Supervisor
    David Weiss Productions, Inc.
    Los Angeles

    Ron James replied 18 years, 11 months ago 8 Members · 15 Replies
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  • Chris Borjis

    June 4, 2007 at 1:49 am

    do you mean macpro-res422 HD?

    it captures fine in SD for you right?

    I agree with you at any rate and thought it was a lame thing to do by announcing the fact of HD only on the mac pro weeks after public release.

    They clearly want everyone on the intel architecture now.

  • Ron James

    June 4, 2007 at 4:38 am

    [Borjis] “They clearly want everyone on the intel architecture now.”

    Well, they want everyone on *new* computers. Can’t blame them for that.

  • Eric

    June 4, 2007 at 7:27 am

    well it just wont work that way. if apple keeps pissing off their customers like that you can now switch to Adobe Production Suite in no time! – thanks to intel architecture!

    I don

  • Mark Maness

    June 4, 2007 at 1:05 pm

    Whoa…. Hang on, here…. What all the fuss about?

    Are you doing all of your projects in Uncompressed 8-bit or 10-bit?

    [eric] “I don

  • Shane Ross

    June 4, 2007 at 1:47 pm

    With every new release of FCP, there are people that complain how Apple screwed them. I simply fail to see the point…HOW did they?

    I still have and run FCP 5.1. I am quite happy with it and it does what I need. It isn’t suddenly obsolete because FCP 6 came out. Not at all. It still edits and outputs HD and SD, I can still do my titles in Motion, still compress for the web or DVD with COmpressor, and still make my DVDs with DVD SP.

    Soon I will upgrade. I won’t be upgrading my computer anytime soon, for to do so would cost me $6000 as I need the new machine, RAM and a new capture card. In the meantime, can I capture to the ProRes codec? No. DO I NEED TO? No. I will still capture my DVCPRO HD as DVCPRO HD and edit in that format until I lock picture. Then I will TRANSCODE into ProRes 422 for the 10-bit color space for color correction. Can my computer do that? ABSOLUTELY.

    Motion 3…can my machine do it? I think that will be iffy. I might need a new graphics card. Will my machine do Color? Again…iffy. My graphics card might not support it. But I have been getting along just fine without it, so I might not need it just yet. Is it cool? Yes. Will I still be able to work without it? Yes.

    Because my machine isn’t up to snuff for a couple of the main advances with FCP, I might not upgrade. As I said, my machine works just fine as is. I can do everything I need to do. Are the upgrades major ones? Are there great new features? Yes. But until I can afford to upgrade, I will be working with what I have. This is typical of the industry. There are MANY post houses and production companies that I work with that are still using very old (talking 6 years old here) Avid software because it still works and does what they need. Software that is running on OS 9.2.2!!

    With every advance in software, one with MAJOR advances…new hardware might be required to use it. This is a fact of life.

    Shane

    Littlefrog Post
    http://www.lfhd.net

  • Mark Maness

    June 4, 2007 at 2:49 pm

    Well said, Shane!!!

    I feel the same way as you. The only reason I upgraded was the ability to mix formats on a timeline. ProRes422 is just a bonus.

    For eveyone with an older system, AJA saw a need. That was the reason why they came out with the AJA IO HD box. Yeah, its a little on the pricey side. BUT its cheaper than upgrading your system, isn’t it?

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    Wayne Carey
    Schazam Productions
    http://www.schazamproductions.com
    https://blogs.creativecow.net/waynecarey

  • Shane Ross

    June 4, 2007 at 3:45 pm

    Yep…that I/O HD iss looking good. As is the x800 card…which I found at OWC.

    Shane

    Littlefrog Post
    http://www.lfhd.net

  • Mark Maness

    June 4, 2007 at 8:45 pm

    Well, I can tell you from experience that the ATI X800 card is awesome. I have it in my G5 system and Motion runs pretty good with it.

    _______________________________

    Wayne Carey
    Schazam Productions
    http://www.schazamproductions.com
    https://blogs.creativecow.net/waynecarey

  • Shane Ross

    June 4, 2007 at 9:54 pm

    How does it handle COLOR and Motion 3?

    Shane

    Littlefrog Post
    http://www.lfhd.net

  • Andrew Kimery

    June 5, 2007 at 5:01 am

    [Shane Ross] “There are MANY post houses and production companies that I work with that are still using very old (talking 6 years old here) Avid software because it still works and does what they need. Software that is running on OS 9.2.2!! “

    I actually worked on a reality show last year that down-graded from G5 Adrenalines to G4 Meridiens a month into the show because multicam is better on the Meridien systems (and we had 24 cameras shooting an average of 250hrs a day over a 10 day shoot).

    The thing w/the older Avid systems is that they’ve been around so long you pretty much know exactly what you can do and exactly what you can’t do in terms of workflow. Very few hidden surprises lurk in those systems anymore.

    What’s the saying, better the devil you know than the devil you don’t.

    -Andrew

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