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  • Project/Timeline with P2 720 24pN, 1080i60, NTSC 29.97

    Posted by Will Lyons on April 27, 2010 at 10:23 pm

    Let me start by saying, I have searched and found a lot of info, but still have a few questions. For posterity, here’s a helpful post I found: https://forums.creativecow.net/thread/8/1060747. Please excuse my inexperience, this is my first solo effort and trust me I’ve learned a lot. This board has been incredibly helpful.

    My Dilema: I’m working on a small action sports project which was mostly shot on an HVX @ 720p 24pN. Lots of interviews, action, overcranking, etc… However, some of the scenes were shot on a Sony Handicam and are HDV 1080i60. There is one interview that was shot and captured with the sony iLink and is regular NTSC 29.97.
    I know this is a PITA, and I know that I should have made sure everything was shot in the same format, but we had some contributor footage, as well as old archive footage that just didn’t match up with what we shot initially. I chose 720 24pN largely because of the overcranking abilities.

    I need to put all this together on a DVD somehow. I think my mistake lies in that I’ve edited almost the entire film now on seperate timelines which match the clips, some are 23.98, some 59.94. When I got to export this for DVD using compressor, will it automatically add pulldown to the 23.98 timelines? Whenever I export them as a self contained and do it as a DV/NTSC 29.97 timebase, they’re obviously all messed up. I have read about placing the 23.98 clips on a 59.94 timeline, but since I’ve already edited them, they don’t synch up right, fades are off, etc…

    My deadline is Monday, and in true amateur style, I’m starting to get a little nervous. Forgive my ignorance and thanks for any help you may have to offer.
    Cheers,
    Will

    PS: Here’s the website for the project:
    https://www.thecanoemovie.com

    Rob Tinworth replied 16 years ago 3 Members · 9 Replies
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  • Jeremy Garchow

    April 28, 2010 at 1:38 am

    Hi, Will. I read that other thread.

    What’s different about that project and yours, is that Bret had mostly p footage and the 720p60 timeline is an easy common denominator, with yours it’s a bit different. SInce you have a lot of interlaced footage, you would have to deinterlace when adding it to a 720p60 timeline.

    I would advice that you conform all of your footage to 720p24 using Compressor.

    Or you can edit away in a 720p24 timeline, and then conform only what you need at the end.

    Jeremy

  • Will Lyons

    April 28, 2010 at 1:42 pm

    Jeremy,
    Thanks for the info. So when I conform it using compressor, should I add the deinterlace filter? That sounds like a silly question…
    Will

  • Jeremy Garchow

    April 28, 2010 at 1:57 pm

    Don’t use the filter in the filter tab, but rather use the frame controls tab, set output fields to progressive and deinterlace to best. Make sure frame rate is set to custom and 23.976

  • Will Lyons

    April 28, 2010 at 2:37 pm

    Thanks Jeremy, you’re the man!
    Will

  • Will Lyons

    April 28, 2010 at 11:10 pm

    Jeremy, the clips are a little choppy, which I’m guessing is a result of many of the original frames missing. Are there any settings in compressor that can minimize this choppiness, or is that just something I’ll have to live with and learn from?

  • Jeremy Garchow

    April 28, 2010 at 11:30 pm

    Eveything set to best in frame controls?

  • Will Lyons

    April 29, 2010 at 12:52 am

    It wasn’t at first, then I changed it, and it’s still a little choppy, but it may just be because I’ve been staring at it for so long…

  • Jeremy Garchow

    April 29, 2010 at 12:55 am

    Well, 24p has a less fluid look than 60Hz video.

  • Rob Tinworth

    April 29, 2010 at 11:03 pm

    The other approach is to make everything run at 29.97 fps. In your case, if you’re only making an SD DVD, I would downconvert the 720p23.98 and add pulldown to make it NTSC, downconvert the HDV material to NTSC, and then make the DVD from that.

    Rob Tinworth
    http://www.1021.tv

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