Profile Settings for B&W Shootings????

[Craig Seeman]

The tough part of this is that B&W is not “a look,” there are many variations.

[Rafael Amador]

Hi Sascha,
For this task I would use Magic Bullet instead of Color.
MagicBullet “interprets” the Chroma, thing that Color can not do it.
rafael

http://www.nagavideo.com

[Sascha Engel]

Hi Rafael,

what do you mean by that? I planned to screw down the level to -99 and shoot it with the red and yellow lenses. But I have no I idea, if there’s any kind of ideal profile settings for crispy contrasted B7W picture (e.g. Knee or Matrix or Detail Settings).
But anyway – since I work a lot with MagicBullet – can you elaborate on the Chroma interpretation thing!!

Thanx.

Sascha

[Rafael Amador]

Hi Sascha,
In Color you can only get rid of the Chroma and play with the luma levels to get your B&W.
MB have some incredible filters that takes in account the original color to produce an amazing variety of shades.
Make a test.
Pick any clip and:
– Drop the 3WCC (not necessary to adjust it).
– Drop the MB Looks (“Crush Blacks” or so).
OK. Now that you have your B&W picture, play with the colors in the 3W-CC.
You will see that depending which colors we push, we change our B&W picture.
In fact this is how B&W photography works.
These guys have done an incredible filter.
Post me if you have any question.
I’m about to upload a B&W clip. I’ll let you know when is ready.
Cheers,
rafa

http://www.nagavideo.com

[Rafael Amador]

Hi Sascha,
Please have a look to this clip:

https://reels.creativecow.net/film/4452

Is just a test, but I think that the B&W is great.
rafael

http://www.nagavideo.com

[Sascha Engel]

Hi Rafael,

unfortunately, we started shooting already, but just two days, so never too late.
This is what I did so far: I did shoot in B&W with a yellow filter 15 on top to give an accent to the skin.
But if I understand you right, then you would shoot it all still in Colour end desaturate it later in MB? Cause the Photographer I talked with told me that shooting it in B&W with the yellow filter would give a better result?!?

What do you mean by 3WCC?
“- Drop the MB Looks (“Crush Blacks” or so). ” What do you mean by that?

I just had also a terrible shooting yesterday – we had a scene inside the house, where the actress is wearing a Kimono (with lots of little lines) – they are flickering and jumping disco now. I should have used a promist or diffusion filter – now I have to try to get rid of the lines in MB with some Diffusion Filters or do you have any other idea for that?

Thanx a lot.

Greetings from Holland,

Sascha

[Sascha Engel]

Looks amazing! Did you just Desaturate the a Color Shot?

Greetings,

Sascha

[Rafael Amador]

Hi Sascha,
You can not get that B&W if you desaturate.
You can’t get that in Color.
To get that B&W the color is fundamental.

[Sascha Engel] “What do you mean by 3WCC?
“- Drop the MB Looks (“Crush Blacks” or so). ” What do you mean by that? “
The 3W-CC is the Color Corrector filter of FC.
The “Crush Blacks” is one of the presets of MB Looks.
Is the one I’ve used for the clip.

To put the CC filter before, is for you to understand how important is the color to get a good B&W.
Each color will gives you a different range of grays.
If you desaturate, you have only the 256 levels of the Luminance, and you just can play the contrast.
Keeping the Chroma, you have millions of grays.

[Sascha Engel] “- they are flickering and jumping disco now. I should have used a promist or diffusion filter – now I have to try to get rid of the lines in MB with some Diffusion Filters or do you have any other idea for that? “
Some times a simple flicker filter can fixit.
Ty that first

rafae

http://www.nagavideo.com

[Sascha Engel]

Thanx a lot for your help !!!!!

Sascha

[Michael Slowe]

Rafael I too enjoyed watching your excerpt, it looked fabulous. BUT, would it not have looked even better in colour? The lovely misty backgrounds just cried out for colour and, wonderful though your B & W is, why did you choose that? Having said that I loved it. Just when I was wondering whether you encountered any resentment we saw one guy put his hand toward the camera and a girl washing turned round suddenly on a warning. Great stuff.

Michael Slowe