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  • Professional Color Correction Monitoring

    Posted by James Iles on June 24, 2009 at 6:17 pm

    Using Premiere CS4 (I’m using PC) how can color correction work be properly (& professionally) previewed on a monitor?

    I have no additional editing hardware, just the software. My current setup are two LCD monitors and sometimes I use the full screen output to view the edit using a DVI to HDMI adapter for a large LCD TV. I would like to purchase extra hardware to do color correction and am thinking about the Matrox MX02 mini at the moment, partly to save the expense of a proper broadcast monitor.

    I’ve read online that professional broadcast monitors have a color temperature of 6500K and consumer monitors a temperature of 9300K. Is this true? And if the color correction work is being done on a monitor of different color temperature to that of the audience, I’d be interested to know why?

    Thank you.

    Brian Louis replied 16 years, 10 months ago 6 Members · 11 Replies
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  • Ron Lindeboom

    June 24, 2009 at 6:35 pm

    You can learn all about broadcast (video/reference) monitors here…

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Broadcast_monitor

    Best regards,

    Ron Lindeboom

  • Vince Becquiot

    June 24, 2009 at 7:10 pm

    Yep standards… Well, the truth is that most LCDs ship with what some manufacturers deem to be higher contrast and vivid colors so that it looks brighter in the store, and that means a very blueish image in many cases, same for computer screens. And most LCDs have a setting to change that as well, among with other settings that also throw all of that out of whack. And things might change again once LED screens start to really take of.

    So we work in D65 on our Panasonic monitor, and that’s a standard, something that will relate down the chain, from location to color correction.

    Vince Becquiot

    Kaptis Studios
    San Francisco – Bay Area

  • Arc Nevada

    June 24, 2009 at 8:56 pm

    You can use a DV converter with AE and Premiere to monitor your work on a proffesional NTSC monitor. Some of the DV converters can cost $1500.00 but they will have BNC, XLR, SDI, etc. I use a cheap 129.99 ADS PYRO.

    I used to use the S-Video out put of my Graphics Card but the converter is a better way to go. I can have two computer montiors plus the Client/NTSC monitor.

  • Arc Nevada

    June 24, 2009 at 8:58 pm

    I forgot. You might want to look at the Decklink cards and even the Xena from AJA.

  • Brian Louis

    June 24, 2009 at 10:24 pm

    This link will explain color temperature
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Color_temperature
    You didn’t mention what your product is giong to be for??

    >And if the color correction work is being done on a monitor of different color temperature to that of the audience, I’d be interested to know why?< If your product is for consumer consumption like DVD use a decent tv that can be calibrated with a pluge pattern for color correction via component or HDMI, if your product is for Broadcast/cable use a good brodcast monitor(expensive), to get video out for viewing you ca use a product like BlackMagic Design's Intensity or IntensityPro, or a Matrox MX02, relatively inexpensive, trying to view a computer overlay on a tv monitor could result in iffy results

  • James Iles

    June 25, 2009 at 12:05 am

    Thank you for your responses.

    Final distribution is for broadcast in PAL and also DVD at Standard Definition. The tape format in use by the TV station is BetaSP.

    So far it would seem that the response generally deviates to having a professional monitor and a card that can output to the monitor. And being able to properly calibrate that monitor, correct?

  • Brian Louis

    June 25, 2009 at 6:21 pm

    >So far it would seem that the response generally deviates to having a professional monitor and a card that can output to the monitor. And being able to properly calibrate that monitor, correct?< Thats the jest of it, since you are going to deliver on SP you should be able to find a good used CRT monitor for a decent price if myou are on a budget, and a DV to A/V converter if you can't find a analog out card, outputs to be determined by the model of the deck you are going to input to.

  • Tim Kolb

    June 26, 2009 at 1:19 pm

    For truly accurate color correction, the display needs to also be in an environment that is lit properly.

    In a room where the displays are balanced to 6500, the lighting should be D65 balanced daylight as well. Since basic LCDs have a cold cathode fluorescent backlight, the daylight balance also happens help a typical LCD to at least function as well as it can when it’s calibrated with a probe, and of course, set to 6500.

    There are more and more options for LCD evaluation viewing, and not all of them are expensive. The HD Dreamcolor doesn’t have an SDI input, but with an HDMI and a displayport input, a good display card or a video card with HDMI output can drive it. JVC’s LCD monitors are actually very good for the price, and they have more traditional video inputs. Both of these options are in the $2-5K range and prices are coming down all the time.

    TimK,
    Director, Consultant
    Kolb Productions,

  • Arc Nevada

    June 26, 2009 at 5:27 pm

    James,

    Is CC your only concern or do you want true HD resolution?

    I only want to get a Decklink card so my motion graphics will look better on the NTSC monitor. For CC my converter works just fine. The resolution will be constricted to 720 X 480 so when editing HD footage some of the motion graphics might look jerky but the CC should be fine. My cheap 129.99 DV convert does have component out. It would require RCA to BNC adpaters for use with a true broadcast monitor but I have seen DV converters with BNC componet out put for less then $500.00. But then again at $500.00 a Decklink or Xena card might be a better option.

  • James Iles

    June 27, 2009 at 5:14 am

    Thank you Brian Louis. I am certainly thinking of a second hand CRT.

    My second idea is the Matrox MX02 Mini and am wondering if I could really use what Matrox are saying that this has the tools to calibrate a consumer LCD or TV to be usable for color correction. The key issue is that it would be the user who calibrates the display with the Matrox settings and since I know of no one who has done this and can say it works well, I’m not entirely sure if that is the route to go.

    If the MX02 Mini really is going to give me confident color correction monitoring for both HD and SD (I already have a Sony Full HD consumer LCD which at 42″ looks good for clients) then it would almost seem that this is the way to go. Anyone have any experience or thoughts on the MXO2 Mini for this purpose?

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