Prodad Respeedr experiences?

[John Bolton]

Not sure what version you are running but if you Right Mouse on your Event on the time line and select Properties and click Disable Resample

[Nick White]

OK, Thanks very much John. I had not thought of that. I usually do that, as I do not like the result even without slowing. I imagine I was focusing on trying out Respeedr.

Thanks again and I will 100% give that a go.

Nick

Nick
Head: Hertz Music

[George Dean]

Hi Nick,

When you say “I upgraded to Vegas Home Studio”, exactly what program, version, and build are you using? I’m familiar with Vegas Pro and Movie Studio, Movie Studio Platinum in various versions 12, 13, 14, 15, 16, etc. which have been produced first by Sony up to version 13, then after that by Magix.

If your source media from the Panasonic is interlaced, this is what I would change in the Project Properties….

– ‘Field Order’, change to ‘None (progressive scan)’
– ‘Deinterlace method:’, change to ‘Interpolate fields’
– ‘Resample mode:’, change to ‘Disable resample’ (as John suggest)

Then I would render out to Sony XAVC S Long

Then load this video file into ReSpeedr, set your speed setting and render it out to the best quality

Bring that video file back into Movie Studio to use in your project.

Also, are you using the latest ReSpeedr V1.0 build 1.0.44?

Best Regards……George

[Nick White]

Mea Culpa for the name. Vegas Movie Studio.

I DL’d the trial yesterday. I assume it’s the latest build but I can’t find that info in the UI.

I thought that Respeeder was a Vegas Plugin (????). I read John’s post about disabling resample and assumed that this was the problem if you use Respeeder as a plugin. I have to admit that using Respeedr stand alone does not have all the nasties. But I remember not having to render out and then having to render back in…a plugin…also a huge time saver

Nick
Head: Hertz Music

[George Dean]

Hi Nick,

There are two variations of MAGIX Vegas Movie Studio. The basic Movie Studio, and the Movie Studio Platinum. They also sell a package called Movie Studio Suite, which is Movie Studio Platinum packaged with various add-ons. I would recommend against the basic Movie Studio and opt for the Platinum or Suite, as they are both full feature Platinum programs.

Just for your info, if you click on the ‘Help’ tab at the top and then ‘About’, it will display which build you are using. And, yes if you downloaded the trial from the MAGIX website it should be the latest version build.

I have never seen a ProDad ReSpeedr plugin for Vegas. ProDad does make their Mercalli 4+ stabilizer program available in a stand alone and plugin versions for Vegas Pro, and they make a new product called Vitascene V3 plugin for Vegas Pro and Movie Studio.

I have also never seen Movie Studio bundled with ProDad ReSpeedr. Do you have a link for that offer that you can share?

I agree, plugin’s usually save a lot of time. Although my experience using the Mercalli 4+ stabilizer plugin is, it works better than the build in VEGAS Video Stabilizer, for some shots that require special settings, using the Mercalli v4+ stand alone provides more tools to get the job done. Again, I have never seen ReSpeedr as a plungin so have no idea how that works.

Best Regards……George

[Jorma Nippala]

[George Dean] “I have also never seen Movie Studio bundled with ProDad ReSpeedr. Do you have a link for that offer that you can share?”

It was offered as an extra/add-on to the MSP 15 upgrade a couple of times in 2018. The latest offer is here
https://www.vegascreativesoftware.info/us/forum/vegas-movie-studio-16-price-watch–114816/#ca714255

Regarding “Do current video editing programs support ReSpeedr as a plug-in?”, see https://www.prodad.com/ReSpeedr-V1-30546,l-us.html

[George Dean]

Thank You Jorma for the clarification and confirmation.

Best Regards……George

[Nick White]

OK. I dld the trial and it seems to give a much better result than I remember. Not sure if that is because the app has improved, or that I chose the right video format and settings by chance.

It was a while ago, so sorry if I remembered it as a plugin. Some of their apps are plugins, but not this.

Thanks for all the input.

Nick
Head: Hertz Music

[Nick White]

In case anyone is interested or can be helped by this:
– I have had heaps better results from Respeedr. Not yet sure why. Programme dev or my choice of source and settings?

– I fed a SOC video to it; 50 fps, MTS format from a Panasonic camera.

I have to say that I am severely testing the programme, using two dogs playing, one with a long, thin, whippy tail, which flails about a lot and moves rapidly across the FOV.

The results were:
– up to 1/5th speed there were no or minimal artefacts in fast moving (across the field of view) objects…so…a dog’s long tail when it plays….. not following a fast boat, car etc.

– the slomo is beautifully smooth: much better than using Vegas’s time stretch, which is a bit stop-start, like an old war movie :).

– That smoothness goes right up to -23 (1/23 speed), which was the highest I tried.

– Above the 1/5th level, small artefacts start to appear in the tail, at the tip.
– It is moving like a whip and is a tough call.

– In the Start “menu” you can try the automatic subframe method, but never use the Frame Blend method: choose the (slower) Optical Flow subframe method. Frame Blend is the worst for artefacts and IMO needs to be removed, quicker or not. If it’s the default then the company will earn bad reviews by casual reviewers.

– doing a 1/4 slomo then exporting and reimporting and doing another 1/4 slomo still presents the same artefacts as doing a 1/16 slomo in the first place, AFAICS. So seems a waste of time.

– Strangely, the funnies that appear after 1/5th – 1/7th seem not to increase as the speed get slower: so 1/20th is no worse. More study needed.

– The “simple” interface, as with all “simple” interfaces, tends to hide stuff that you can control: I would need to re-explore how to set the fact that you can make the output match the input parameters etc .

-The inter….UI is totally different from those normal to windows and I hate that…it’s a bit anti if you write for Win.

Does 50 FPS help…does 50P vs 50 I help? the Shadow knows

Nick
Head: Hertz Music
Seems our entire history has been dominated by finding better ways to throw things at each other.

[Nick White]

One HUUUGE thing. AFAICS you can close the programme ad lose everything…settings output folder, blah. No question. …there seems NO WAY to save what you have been doing and exit. Screwed up. Not even any way to save settings to the exported video.

You are just playing and winging it.

An appalling behaviour. in any programme.

The guy that develops this stuff is very clever…no….brilliant….genius….but needs some real world experience.

Nick
Head: Hertz Music
Seems our entire history has been dominated by finding better ways to throw things at each other.