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  • Problem with AE Footag in FCP

    Posted by Sascha Engel on June 13, 2010 at 11:14 pm

    Hi,

    I did some Rotoscoping and masking in AE with EX1 Footage. Then I exported it as QT in the original XDCAM EX Codec. When I re-import it in FCP and set it on the timeline it shows as Playback ready (no green, yellow or red line), but still it hardly plays, just some jumpy frames.
    Why it cannot deal with the footage?
    Could it be a solution, to take that bit, re-render it fromout FCP and then re-import it again?

    Thanx.

    Sascha

    Sascha Engel replied 15 years, 11 months ago 4 Members · 9 Replies
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  • Jerry Hofmann

    June 13, 2010 at 11:36 pm

    Your solution will likely help alright, but also be sure that the AE export is on your scratch disk, and not on your startup disk before you bother with it.

    Jerry

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  • John Fishback

    June 14, 2010 at 12:18 am

    You didn’t mention the frame rate. Was the frame rate set correctly? If the footage is 23.98 (as it’d appear in FCP), in AFX you need to set the frame rate to 23.976. 23.98 is shorthand FCP uses. The actual rate is 23.976. If you enter 23.98 in AFX it will use that exact rate which will generate an incorrectly timed file.

    John

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  • Sascha Engel

    June 14, 2010 at 12:57 am

    Hi John,

    I live in PAL land, so both – my original file, as well as the exported file are in 25 fps in progressive mode.

    Sascha

  • Sascha Engel

    June 14, 2010 at 1:29 am

    No, the exported AE Clip is not on the StartUp Disk, but on the same diskk than all the other material of the film.
    I just heard from a friend though, that in OS 10.5.8 and FCP 6 are problems with the XDCAM Codec in Timeline, which is just solved in FCP 7.
    So, if that is the case, than I have to live with the crashes, till the project is finished.
    I am scared to upgrade a working system during a project – specially with a tight deadline!

    sascha

  • Jerry Hofmann

    June 14, 2010 at 4:54 am

    Well, I’ve upgraded mid project but only to another and separate startup disk. Got a handy firewire drive around here for this… That way you can “try it” first…

    Jerry

    Apple Certified Trainer, Producer, Writer, Director Editor, Gun for Hire and other things. I ski.

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  • Rafael Amador

    June 14, 2010 at 3:15 pm

    [Sascha Engel] “Then I exported it as QT in the original XDCAM EX Codec. “
    sascha,
    That is a NO-NO.
    XDCAM is an acquisition codec.
    You are exporting something really crappy from AE, when you could be exporting something really solid:
    8b 420 vs 10b 444.
    rafael

    http://www.nagavideo.com

  • Sascha Engel

    June 14, 2010 at 4:58 pm

    Thanx Rafael – again! I should put you on the credit list of that movie – seriously.
    Makes sense what you say. I think I imported it, that way, cause I thought I do not have to render then – just throw it on the timeline then.
    So Uncompressed 8 or 10Bit is the way to go then?

    Will try it, and update you how that works.

    Thanx again!

    Sascha

  • Rafael Amador

    June 14, 2010 at 5:13 pm

    Hi Sascha,
    Set AE to render in 16 or 32b and go to Prores or Prores HQ.
    Uncompress won’t add nothing but complicate the editing.
    rafael

    http://www.nagavideo.com

  • Sascha Engel

    June 14, 2010 at 7:58 pm

    Thanx Dave,
    I did manage to make it work good. I do not have the time and possibilities to re-render those files into Animation or ProRes before importing to AE, but with the tip from Raphael it does work. I just exported it into ProRes Files when I render the movie and it’s just fine.
    For my Color Roundtrip at the end of the editing, I will also use the XDCAM files, which I was told will work on an updated system – I do not have the time to convert everything before into ProRes Files.

    Sascha

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