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Problem laying back to tape
Posted by Jason Yardley on November 20, 2006 at 11:04 pmI had just finished an edit, and had to lay it back to the digi beta deck, marked my in and out points in the timeline, went to edit to tape, marked in an in point on the tape , as I had already striped some timecode onto the tape before hand, dragged and droped my edit on to asemble edit, and go an error message back saying ‘your edit is less than one frame’ don’t understand why this happens? I’m in the edit to tape mode not the print to tape, I’ve got enough striped black & bars on the front, I’m running G5 Tiger 10.4 with FCP 5.1.2
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Chris Borjis
November 21, 2006 at 12:36 amHave you tried insert edit?
I never use assemble. thats just me.
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John Steventon
November 21, 2006 at 8:19 amThis is the bane of my life – and it always happens from nowhere, at the most crucial moment – and above all is probably the reason I am most embarrassed when using Final Cut Pro with clients in the suite.
Fixes that I’ve tried are
1) Extend the in and outpoints to cover a much larger time span (70% hit rate)
2) Restart your Mac (70% hit rate)
3) Trash the preferences (which annoys the heck out of me) (90% hit rate)
4) Copy and paste the edit into a new sequence and cut that sequence in (10% hit rate)
5) Cut some other stuff back into tape, and then return to this edit again, hoping it’s happier now (5% hit rate).
This has been a problem for all versions of FCP I’ve used – I really hope they sort this out on the next release.
John
John Steventon – Author of DJing for Dummies
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G5 2.7Ghz, 4.5Gb ram, Blackmagic Decklink/multibridge, 5.6Tb Infortrend storage, FCP Studio 5.04, Makie MCU control, Yahama 5.1 surround, JVC DTV multi-format monitor, 2x23inch Apple monitors – and a partirdge on a pear tree.
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Shane Ross
November 21, 2006 at 8:24 amMark IN and OUT on your TIMELINE…but only an IN on the edit to tape window. Having in and out points in both locations might cause confusion.
I never had issues with assemble editing.
Shane
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John Steventon
November 21, 2006 at 9:38 amYeah, +1 on that – this only ever happens to me on Insert edits.
(I only ever mark the in on the edit window – never the out – and it still happens, so unfortunately, that isn’t the root of the problem).
John
John Steventon – Author of DJing for Dummies
Success is merely a failiure to imagine more…
G5 2.7Ghz, 4.5Gb ram, Blackmagic Decklink/multibridge, 5.6Tb Infortrend storage, FCP Studio 5.04, Makie MCU control, Yahama 5.1 surround, JVC DTV multi-format monitor, 2x23inch Apple monitors – and a partirdge on a pear tree.
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Jason Yardley
November 21, 2006 at 12:00 pmThanks for the info, seems strange, that FCP hasn’t addresed this problem, I thought of someting last night, maybe the deck was in preset Timecode instead of regen, I’ll try that next time, has anyone tried this?
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Jim
November 21, 2006 at 1:48 pmmaybe the deck was in preset Timecode instead of regen, I’ll try that next time, has anyone tried this?
I would be interested to hear your results. As I recall, when doing an assemble edit, if I left the TC set to preset it would start the assemble edit with the TC last left in the preset mode. I would have to go back, change the TC generator on the deck (Sony 2800) to regen, then things seem to work OK.
IMHO the edit to tape function, especially the insert edit is extremely primitive. Having to manually enter the exact same TC I/O on both the timeline & tape is just asking for trouble. (The repsonse, “just EtoT the whole program” to change 1 lower third is just silly.)
Cheers,
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Bob Flood
November 21, 2006 at 4:37 pmHey DogPappy
Been here, still dealing with it, wish it would get better
try these things
assemble or insert works the same AS FAR AS FCP EDIT TO TAPE GOES (we know what the difference is on the tape) so i dont think either mode will affect this bug/issue. waht i have found to work:
1. do not make your edit points on your sequence ie where you want to pick up the sequence, on cuts, dissolves or other transitions, try marking in and out in the middle of a clip
2. if you have an outpoint in the edit to tape window, clear it.
3. if you dont have an outpoint in the edit to tape window, make it the same as your sequence ie enter an outpoint on your edit to tape window
4. you did not mention the output card you have. if its a Kona, there are 2 or 3 different sony vtr protocols. try different ones
5. FWIW i think edit to tape is THE MOST important function in the editor! I use it as my “final master” as once i lay down the show, i do not have to worry about files hiccuping, or media going off line, or any of that computer related bs. woulda been nice if apple made it work, but i guess thats waht you get for $1,000.oo (adn itsnt tape supposed to be dead? everyone will make shows to DVD!!!)
cynicism aside, i hope this helps
bee eph
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