Pro Res to Vegas 13

[George Dean]

@ Mims……”I love the look of the Blade footage on the Atomos monitor-just can’t get Vegas to work. I think I have come to the end of the line with Vegas Pro.”

Of Course you can still use the Samurai Blade as a monitor and use any of the focus or scope tools, just don’t record and use the native Sony codec on a card. Or, again, do as the Mac users did for a long time, render to an intermediate file that Vegas likes. I do this often with m2ts, avi, mxf, and mp4 files, as I often edit in sections.

On the other hand, if I’m only going to put 20-30 clips into events in Vegas, I can take them straight from the Atomos as DNxHD220X and even on my old machine I can get a reasonable preview for editing (although, yes, with more complicated effects I can bring Vegas to it’s knees, but that is my old machine, not Vegas.

@ Mims…..’When I looked at the blade I don’t recall Atomos advertising: “This will not work with Sony Vegas/Windows platforms. Only works with a Mac.”‘

You are probably correct. They will advertise what it works with, not what it will not work with. They will list what they support and what not. It’s not the Atomos, it’s not Vegas, it’s the 342 bit restriction of Quicktime in Windows. I will admit, it is somewhat of a hook, but there any many of these type hooks in the industry between OS, codec, ownership, platforms, programs, and various bugs!

@ Mims……”As I make the transition to feature film 4K needs with a different camera like a AJA Cion or Black Magic Ursa Mini(?), the Sony Vegas Pro software system may have to be left behind for something better suited for the volume of 4K files and 90 minute+ project lengths.”

Final Cut, Adobe, Avid, etc. and others…..the trick is to match the camera output with the platform input on a box that will run them in an OS that supports them, and that your client can use. I work for myself only, if you have clients, they are your first concern…..I’m not saying anything here you don’t already know. Bottom line, I agree, sometimes (most of the time!) I’m confused on all the in’s and out’s……but there are work arounds editors have been using to get the job done. Good Luck with Your Projects.

Best Regards…..George

Mims

[Russ Froze]

William,
I have and use Atomos Ninja and Assassin, record Prores HD and 4K at the highest bitrate. Edit on PC with Vegas Versions 7-13. Have no issues with the atomos codec. So far I have determined that there are issues with editing on a system. I have yet to learn the specific issues. I need to know exactly what the problems are. Writing “I can’t get it to work” is insufficient information. Has a Prores decoder been installed? Black magic Design Desktop video will install a codec that vegas can use to read Prores and encode 10 bit 422 .mov files that are Mac friendly.
Russ Froze

[John Rofrano]

[William Mims] “When I looked at the blade I don’t recall Atomos advertising: “This will not work with Sony Vegas/Windows platforms.””

Let’s be very clear: It works with Vegas Pro you just can’t use a lot of QuickTime files due to the 32-bit memory limitation. I would not use it for a project with a lot of files but if you were shooting an event that was one or two long recordings you should be fine.

Atomos would be incorrect if they said that it didn’t work with Vegas Pro.

[William Mims] “Only works with a Mac.””

This has nothing to do with PC vs Mac. Adobe has their own QuickTime libraries on the PC so they don’t have the problem that Sony has. This is a Vegas Pro limitation because Sony uses the 32-bit QuickTime libraries. I’m sure it would have cost them some licensing fees to develop their own and since none of their cameras shoot Quicktime, why would they?

So saying it only works with a Mac would also be false advertising on Atomos’ part. They advertised correctly. You just need to know the limitations of your own software which Sony does not advertise. That’s why there are user supported forms like the Creative COW. 😉

~jr

http://www.johnrofrano.com
http://www.vasstsoftware.com

[William Mims]

Amen, John about Creative Cow. Thanks.

Mims