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  • pro res proxy on a power pc mac, clipwrap

    Posted by Chris Walker on January 14, 2011 at 6:57 pm

    Hi,
    I’ve searched but I can’t find answers to a number of technical questions I have.
    I’m using fcp version 6.06 on a power pc mac, osx 10.4.11, and I want to edit avchd while using as little disc space as possible, and reducing rendering times to the minimum possible, while retaining as much quality as possible. I’ve been experimenting with clipwrap.
    When I simply unwrap, I get a nice small file size, but it wont play smoothly in the timeline. When I convert to dvcprohd or prores, it plays back smoothly, but I’m getting huge file sizes on the order of 1 gig per minute, and more importantly, it takes a long time to convert. So I wanted to try prores proxy, but the that option is greyed out in clipwrap.
    I understand that I could simply add a lot more disc space by adding an external drive, but that would still leave me with the long conversion times.
    So, is there a way for me to edit in prores proxy and then convert only the original footage that actually gets used into prores hq for output? Somebody was talking about a way of doing this with log and transfer, but it seems that I can’t use that with a non-intel mac. I’m guessing that’s why the prores proxy option is greyed out in clipwrap..
    Or is there some other solution, short of getting an intel mac?

    Chris Walker replied 15 years, 3 months ago 3 Members · 6 Replies
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  • Zane Barker

    January 14, 2011 at 7:27 pm

    ProRes Proxy is only available with FCS3, and FCS3 is Intel only.

    If you want to work with the ProRes Proxy codec you will need a new Mac and a new version of FCP

    **Hindsight is always 1080p**

  • Chris Walker

    January 14, 2011 at 7:58 pm

    Thanks; that helps a lot.
    So is there another way to get small files to edit with?

  • Shane Ross

    January 14, 2011 at 8:39 pm

    [chris walker] “So is there another way to get small files to edit with?”

    DV would be the lowest you could go with ClipWrap. But then you are in SD dimensions, so if you have graphics and text and pictures, and do any moves on them…they will all have to be redone when you bring in the footage full res.

    PLUS…the offline/online workflow isn’t very smooth when you use third party apps to convert the footage. When you do that, you need to convert EVERYTHING used in the sequence to full res. No handles…no shortening the footage….and then reconnect. It’ll be a HUGE pain.

    Import the footage as ProRes…and spend money to get a larger drive. It’ll be a lot smoother than trying to offline/online with ClipWrap.

    Shane

    GETTING ORGANIZED WITH FINAL CUT PRO DVD…don’t miss it.
    Read my blog, Little Frog in High Def

  • Chris Walker

    January 15, 2011 at 1:03 am

    Hi,
    I guess that’s what I’ll do.
    Can you tell me anything about using the unwrapped avchd files that are not converted to anything else. As I said, they don’t play back smoothly in my timeline, but on the other hand the files are much smaller than ProRes, so if I could work with them easily it would be nice.
    Also, dvcprohd files are smaller than ProRes. Any reason not to use them?
    I’m very familiar with editing in the SD world but new to AVCHD, so excuse me for any dumb questions!

  • Shane Ross

    January 15, 2011 at 1:18 am

    [chris walker] “Can you tell me anything about using the unwrapped avchd files that are not converted to anything else. “

    They aren’t supported by FCP nor Avid. Adobe Premiere claims to work with them natively…and I hear of people doing it successfully. But with FCP and Avid…gotta convert.

    [chris walker] “Also, dvcprohd files are smaller than ProRes. Any reason not to use them?”

    They aren’t full raster…meaning that the format lacks the same resolution. AVCHD records 1920×1080. ProRes is 1920×1080. DVCPRO HD at 1080 is 1280×1080 anamorphic…meaning SQUEEZED…to save on space. That’s a lot of lines of resolution missing. But, with your version of FCP, it is either that, or Uncompressed HD…and those are bigger than ProRes.

    Shane

    GETTING ORGANIZED WITH FINAL CUT PRO DVD…don’t miss it.
    Read my blog, Little Frog in High Def

  • Chris Walker

    January 15, 2011 at 1:45 am

    okay, thanks so much for your help!

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