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  • Pro Res: dropped frames on capture

    Posted by Michael Rothenberg on October 27, 2009 at 2:47 pm

    For another user in this forum, Jeremy posted the following:

    The reason why I said DVCPro HD for an ‘offline’ codec and not ProRes on your system is because you have a PowerPC dual 2.0 G5. If you had an intel machine, I would most definitely say use ProRes. Since ProRes is a pretty processor intense codec, capturing ProRes requires an intel machine.

    Thank you for this. I lost a day trying to figure out what was wrong with my settings! (I also have a PPC dual proc G5.) Now I know I was attempting the impossible.

    My followup question is this: I’ve captured in DVCPRO-HD (1080i), but many AE graphics will be added to my cut later. What workflow would you suggest? Here are the options we’re considering:

    1 – AE artist gives me elements w/ alpha channel (Animation codec). I render in DVCPRO-HD.

    2 – I export a Pro Res version and give it to him; all the rendering gets done in After Effects.

    Is there a better option? In the past I haven’t found DVCPRO-HD to be a good post production codec.

    Thanks much – and thanks for your other post reassuring me about mixing 720/30P and 720/30PN (different project).

    Michael

    Michael Rothenberg
    Peak Productions

    Jeremy Garchow replied 16 years, 6 months ago 2 Members · 9 Replies
  • 9 Replies
  • Jeremy Garchow

    October 27, 2009 at 3:33 pm

    Not a problem and glad to help.

    How fast is your drive array?

  • Michael Rothenberg

    October 27, 2009 at 3:40 pm

    It’s a 6 drive SATA RAID 0. Not super fast.

    Michael Rothenberg
    Peak Productions

  • Jeremy Garchow

    October 27, 2009 at 3:46 pm

    Yeah, but that should be enough to handle 720p30 a 10bit UC.

    I would recapture those shot to 10bit UC and have your AE artiist send you ProRes 4×4 files (they support an alpha). You can playback ProRes, but capturing is not possible.

    Jeremy

  • Michael Rothenberg

    October 27, 2009 at 3:54 pm

    Oops, I was afraid I would confuse things with my reference to 720.

    The project I’m asking about now (sorry about that) is 1080i/29.97. Can I still use 10 bit UC for that?

    Michael Rothenberg
    Peak Productions

  • Jeremy Garchow

    October 27, 2009 at 4:01 pm

    No, sorry. My mistake, I missed it.

    Run the AJA System Test and tell me how fast your array is running.

    It’s in the AJA Utilities folder in your Applications.

  • Michael Rothenberg

    October 27, 2009 at 4:24 pm

    Plugging in DVCPRO-HD 1080i60 & 1 GB file size as parameters, I get:

    Write: 223 MB/s
    Read: 226 MB/s

    Michael Rothenberg
    Peak Productions

  • Jeremy Garchow

    October 27, 2009 at 4:29 pm

    Yeah, that’s just fast enough for 10bit UC 1080i. Give a small clip a shot and see if it’s possible.

    Jeremy

  • Michael Rothenberg

    October 27, 2009 at 4:44 pm

    I don’t have the deck here right now, but I will in a day or so and will test it then. At that point I’ll just be batch capturing the final approved piece (I hope). Thanks so much for the advice – it’s like having you here in the room.

    Are you OK with my picking up this thread in a day or so if I run into problems with the 10 bit UC capture? Or maybe a better way of putting it is… if I do run into problems, what should my fallback position be?

    Thanks again Jeremy.

    Michael Rothenberg
    Peak Productions

  • Jeremy Garchow

    October 27, 2009 at 4:52 pm

    [Michael Rothenberg] “Are you OK with my picking up this thread in a day or so if I run into problems with the 10 bit UC capture?”

    Of course, just post back.

    [Michael Rothenberg] “Or maybe a better way of putting it is… if I do run into problems, what should my fallback position be? “

    Just send the DVCPro HD files, and have your animator export ProRes 4×4 files with alpha.

    Jeremy

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