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Pro apps, FCPx and Apple priorities. Now You get it?
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Leo,
I can see your point. Let’s extrapolate your notion.
How would you feel if you upgraded your Canon Mark II 5D firmware only to discover to your full surprise that now you can’t shoot in raw, only in jpegs (because Canon decided that raw is old fashioned and for uploading your pictures to gallery jpegs suffice). What if you can’t communicate remotely w/ you camera because Canon decided that new magnetic touch screen suffice? What if you can’t use flash light because Canon decided that you should take pictures only in daylight? Silly?Are you still gonna think your USD 2500 body is a pro camera?
Can you imagine how much people invested into building pipelines round Apple soft/hardware solutions? This investment is reduced to rubbish thanks to new brilliant paradigms of Apple. Certainly you can think of yourself as true pioneers ushering new era of editing. For me and others Apple’s flushing my investments, time and efforts into toilet.
The irony is that for years I’d been scolding Avid for being too old fashioned. Nowadays I’m switching to it because it’s classic and old fashion – they still utilize edls, oles, and all that stuff Apple decided to get rid of.
Please don’t tell me to wait a couple of years till fcpx is mature enough to offer me something. It’s not gonna happen.
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You are cheating:
Firmware is not like buying FCPX. It’s like an update.
You can choose or not to buy a new Canon body.FCPX didn’t anything to you. FCP7 still works. You cannot open (yet) projects from FCP7 in FCPX, but you have the choice to go FCPX or not.
Yes, I am a pro editor too. I worked on three commercials for top brands in the last month and I did it on FCP7 with the same good and bad as before.
I am waiting for the update not because I want to give time to Apple, but because I tried to cut projects on FCPX (at home, the same project, but just as an exercise) and I loved FPCX editing speed and interface.
If you look ahead, not for the next two months, but for the not so short term, FCPX is a good way to go. Not today, not tomorrow, but maybe in a few months. Don’t let the anger blinds you about the good things.
Leo Hans
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You like playing with hypotheticals – you served a ball I returned it. You totally missed the point.
Let me tell you my story.
Recently I did a project. It was shot in Kiev, Ukraine, assembled in FCP7 and transferred to Moscow, Russia, with all media. In Moscow I opened it in FCP 7, approved with client and sent as xml project over to Amsterdam, Netherlands for composing and final touch-ups.
You can wait weeks, or years, but FCPX will never be good for this kind of job. It’s not cut for it. This is just another app for iPad. If you think otherwise you’re kidding yourself.Sony PMW-EX3, Canon Mark II 5D, FCS3 in Moscow
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That is your personal opinion not facts. Some may agree with you, some may don’t.
I don’t.Leo Hans
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That’s why we congregate at over here – to share thoughts and ideas. I’m not interested in turning you into anti-fcpx freak.
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[Chris Kenny] “In other news, nobody should take Sony’s broadcast and digital cinema cameras seriously, because look at how many PlayStations they sell!”
When has Sony released a broadcast or digital cinema camera which dropped everyday features from the model it replaced? Which didn’t interface with any other industry-standard equipment? Which had marketing materials specifically written for HandyCam users?
Your point that it’s possible for a large company to have separate divisions which focus on different segments is true, but I don’t think Apple and Sony are currently comparable.
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[Walter Soyka] “When has Sony released a broadcast or digital cinema camera which dropped everyday features from the model it replaced? Which didn’t interface with any other industry-standard equipment? Which had marketing materials specifically written for HandyCam users?
Your point that it’s possible for a large company to have separate divisions which focus on different segments is true, but I don’t think Apple and Sony are currently comparable.”
The “Apple doesn’t care about pro users” and even “Apple doesn’t care about the Mac” stuff has been going on for years. It’s not a consequence of what Apple did with FCP X. In fact, a great deal of how people have interpreted what Apple has done with FCP X is a consequence of these preexisting notions. Those of us who never bought into them see what Apple is up to with FCP X in a very different light.
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[Everest Mokaeff] ““We’re thrilled to deliver our best quarter ever, with revenue up 82 percent and profits up 125 percent,” said Steve Jobs, Apple’s CEO.”
Also keep in mind that in baseball, home run hitters also strike out a lot. But anyway, one business report this morning did show some figures indicating vulnerabilities in other Apple sectors.
https://www.theglobeandmail.com/globe-investor/investment-ideas/the-achilles-heel-of-apples-blowout-numbers/article2102680/
What attracted my eye:
I don’t know what they classify as desktops anymore… iMacs plus MacPros? But sales are “seasonal” for that category — lots of purchases made at rollout and then soften up right away for those items.Of course, iPads and IPhones are selling faster than they can make’em. The fallout is that sales of iPods, obviously has (comparatively) tanked, and laptops/portables are in danger. If iPads get more cores… MacBooks … watch out!
And then, of course, FCX will be ported to the iPadX and the circle will be complete. Moore’s Law shows no sign of slowing down. Even though the application we all love to debate is at this point a thalidomide baby, the prosthetic industry appears to have an opportunity, and eventually it could become a productive member of society. Especially for those who are mostly entertaining themselves. It certainly won’t be appreciated by the other 99.9% of the planet’s population who either don’t even know what computers are, or won’t ever be able to afford one. Not like a privileged ultra-minority who can buy billions of dollars worth of doodads only to actually throw them out in about six months’ time.
I’m writing this on a 2005 iMac running Tiger. Maybe there’s a difference? Could you tell how backwards and unsophisticated this composition process is?
I also contest the idea that Thunderbolt is aimed solely at a “professional” market. Why do consumers now regularly buy Terabyte drives at Walmart? Why is it exactly that we now have more than 16K of RAM in our personal computing devices? Nature abhors a vacuum, and processing demands will always reach for more bitrate throughput.
jPo
You mean “Old Ben”? Ben Kenobi?
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Thunderbolt, like FCPX seems to be stuck between consumer and pro.
I agree with Chris J. It’s a decidedly consumerised version of a pro level product.
The other problem is, it isn’t fast enough to really be professional. It’s only the equivalent of a PCIe 4x 1.0.
That’s really slow compared to internal PCIe speeds. That’s not fast enough to run my edit array, it’s not fast enough for BM’s 4K card, and it’s not fast enough for anything over a 4G Fibre Channel.
Why do you think there’s a 20G FC standard? we pro’s crave Speed!
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[Chris Harlan] “But maybe they just don’t care about it any more. “
This is absurd. It’s a brand new app, and the flagship app for Apple’s shiny new media architecture (available as a public framework in OS X for the first time as of today)… and they don’t care about it “any more”? What, you mean they stopped caring since last month?
And what’s the evidence for this rather surprising conclusion? That there are four or five features that probably matter to less than 10% of FCP’s installed base that aren’t in the 1.0 release?
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