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Print to Tape, No Timecode?
Posted by Kal Nyer on January 25, 2008 at 4:12 pmHope someone can help with this one. I’m just trying to print a sequence to tape. I’m using firewire with a Panasonic AG-DV2500 Deck. The problem is that even though the movie is recorded onto the tape, there is no timecode connected with it, making any type of future capture pretty hard. Am I missing a setting here?
Much appreciated
Shane Ross replied 18 years, 6 months ago 3 Members · 3 Replies -
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Shane Ross
January 25, 2008 at 4:29 pmYou cannot print to tape via firewire and retain the timeline timecode. That is a limitation of firewire. Only decks with RS-422 control and the ability to black and code tapes have this feature.
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Matthew Nelson
January 25, 2008 at 7:16 pmI had a similar issue when trying to output to a Sony DSR-11. I had to go into the deck’s settings and select firewire as TC source. Then to black the tape with TC starting at 58;00;00 I had to use an app called Simple Video Out.
In FCP I created a sequence starting at 58;00;00 and filled it with slugs for however long I needed to black the tape. Exported that sequence as a self contained QT, then used Simple Video Out put the black, TC and all, onto the tape. Why FCP could not do this directly is a mystery.
Once blacked I went into FCP using the DV easy setup and ETT the program sequence and it went to tape with correct TC. Perhaps this could work for you.
Matt
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Shane Ross
January 25, 2008 at 8:24 pmThat would be this method…but it only works on a DSR-11 AFAIK. You can try it on the Panasonic.
Shane’s Stock Answer #46 – Outputting Timecode to a DSR-11 DVCAM Deck
Since FCP 4 we have been unable to stripe a new TC such as 00:58:00:00 or 01:58:00:00 to a DVCAM tape with the DSR-11. NO MORE!! I think I found a solution.
Get SimpleVideoOut from the Apple (its free):
https://developer.apple.com/samplecode/SimpleVideoOut/SimpleVideoOut.html
Then create a QT Movie in FCP or Xpress Pro from a sequence which has the starting TC you want on the tape. I just tried it with 00:58:00:00. In the timeline, I just put Bars & Tone for 90 seconds and a black slug for 45 (to take me over 01:00:00:00). You could create a sequence with whatever combination you wanted with the TC set to start at whatever timecode you need for your choice. But the Timeline TC MUST be set to your desired starting code. The exported QT file will have this TC in it.
Then load this DV QT movie into SimpleVideoOut (having selecting Firewire / Apple Firewire PAL or NTSC when you open the app).
Now load a fresh DVCAM tape and set your DSR-11 to:
REC MODE = DVCAM
DV IN TC = EXTERNAL(Have the TC display turned on for this first test so you can verify it has worked.)
Then just hold the REC and PLAY buttons together on the DSR-11 and press play in the SimpleVideoOut app and the new TC will be recorded to your DVCAM tape. Hey presto you are now able to stripe a tape with what ever timecode you want using a DSR-11.
Remember to turn ‘DV IN TC’ back to INTERNAL on the DSR-11 when you come to record your edit to tape.
The problem with the DSR-11 is that it is not the best deck and starting recording at the exact TC, but playing with the pre-rolls should eventually get it spot on. I have had some success with FCP’s ‘Edit to Tape’ and very good results with Avid Xpress Pro after a few tweaks.
Also, if you just had a black QT file, you can change the starting TC to suite the tape; i.e. 00:58:00:00 or 02:58:00:00 etc without going back into FCP or Xpress Pro and rendering out another QT. To do this, just use Sebsky Tools to alter the starting TC of the file.
https://www.dharmafilm.com/sebskytools/Shane
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