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Pretty amazing Thunderbolt demo.
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[Frank Gothmann] “So unless I am misreading, the implication is that a tower isn’t really required anymore, a refresh is less likely because of what the demo shows and its demise won’t matter.
Which is generalising, because is IS required for tons of other stuff, just not that one specific example (unless you need to render of course).”And I’d invite you to reread my reply to that question. Or I can still forever be the bad guy around here whenever something cool comes up.
It’s a question. A discussion; not a mandate.
It’s alright to ask questions.
I think there’ll be another MacPro. They won’t be around for much longer after that.
It doesn’t matter, “everyone” will be on windows at that point anyway, so who cares, right?
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I don’t think you’re the bad guy though it seems you like to be since you brought that up before. My first response in this threat wasn’t even aimed at you. You felt inclined to comment, in a sarcastic way, and I felt inclined to respond back because there is nothing in my original comment you can disagree with, or is there?
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[Frank Gothmann] “My first response in this threat wasn’t even aimed at you”
Threats, is it?! Well, now Frankie, we see ya for who ya are. Careful boys, he’s got a cheese grater.
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[Frank Gothmann] “I don’t think you’re the bad guy though it seems you like to be since you brought that up before.”
Quite the opposite. I’m like Casper. I guess I was reacting to be called short sighted (not by you), and offering generalization.
That demo was very impressive to me. I have not seen thunderbolt in action quite like this.
Sure, some people might need towers today, but soon, perhaps they won’t, maybe, don’t know. Once thunderbolt is more than 4x….
As far as Apple, they won’t have a need to build MacPros much longer to further their business.
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First off, I don’t see how anyone can watch that demo and not be impressed. 4k playback, screen recording and recording a feed from an external camera via SDI all happening concurrently on a MacBook Air! Seriously?!?
I’m not going to wave the ‘desktops are dead’ flag but technology stands still for no man. There will always be a niche that needs the fastest money can buy but that niche keeps getting smaller and smaller. How long did it take for SGI to go from hi-end workhorse to bankrupt?
Shane,
I agree that client perception is a factor at times but client perception changes as well. I mean, look at an old linear bay, a room full of specialized gear, compared to an off-the-shelf computer running FCP 7. The ‘wow factor’ certainly goes to the linear bay yet NLEs, many of which ran on everyday computers, killed them.Jeremy,
As I understand it, it’s not that there are no desktop procs that can work w/ThB it’s that Apple is waiting for the new (and delayed) intel CPUs to come out before they refresh the Mac Pro line (which will presumably include ThB). Apple also had 1 year of ThB exclusivity which is why there are no PCs w/ThB but now that the exclusivity window is over a number of PC makers have announced ThB products. I’ve also read that Apple has been gobbling up almost all of the ThB chips which is one reason ThB peripherals have been slow to hit the market.-Andrew
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[Shane Ross] “Anyways…I’d love a kick ass laptop, but I need big dual screens for my work. I have a LOT of footage to sort through and need the screen space.
Shane
Little Frog Post
Read my blog, Little Frog in High Def”Shane,
Like if or not, this is the whole point of the database in X. Huge screen real estate is critical when you’re largely conditioned to locating clips visually. But when you tie them to a very functional database and smart keywording, screen real estate actually becomes much less critical.
Back before I upgraded my graphics card to be Open CL compatible to run X if you’d asked me, I’d have said not having my 30″ cinema display for editing was going to be a major loss. But a funny thing happened.
I now find that scrolling through pages and pages of clip icons is something I only want to do during times I select for creative exploration. For most edit purposes, where I already know what clip I need, keyword search was is so very much faster and more powerful that “clip scrolling” becomes a chore rather than something enjoyable.
It’s an alternate “option” that I highly value now. Like lots of my former thinking and editing behavior, what I used to do has altered from being the only “best practice” to my seeing it as “one of” my best practices after seeing alternate methods in FCP- X.
You may always want the “big display” of clip alternatives laid out visually. But having the choice to tap in a name and have the clip (or a smaller range of possible clips) for selection is a gigantic improvement, IMO.
Your mileage will surely vary.
“Before speaking out ask yourself whether your words are true, whether they are respectful and whether they are needed in our civil discussions.”-Justice O’Connor
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[Andrew Kimery] “As I understand it, it’s not that there are no desktop procs that can work w/ThB it’s that Apple is waiting for the new (and delayed) intel CPUs to come out before they refresh the Mac Pro line (which will presumably include ThB)”
Hmm. I thought the new sandy/ivy Bridge Over River Kwai (or whatever) desktop chips are the only desktop class TBolt procs. I understand i7s are in some pc desktops, but I’m talking the bigger, more robust, power crunch egg fryers.
If there’s a 1 year apple exclusive, it must be over soon. It’s going to be fun!
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Im tired of the ‘Apple doesnt care about pro’ whining.
You think they created thunderbolt for office and iphoto users?
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“You think they created thunderbolt for office and iphoto users?”
Apple didn’t create Thunder Bolt. And yes, office and iPhoto users (can and will) benefit from it… just like they currently do from eSata and USB 2.0.
Shawn
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[Bill Davis] “Like if or not, this is the whole point of the database in X. Huge screen real estate is critical when you’re largely conditioned to locating clips visually. But when you tie them to a very functional database and smart keywording, screen real estate actually becomes much less critical. “
Spend 8 hours a day editing on an small screen and you will regret it.
Big screens is not just a matter of health and comfort but also the only way to appreciate the quality and possible problems on your footage.
rafael
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