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  • Preparing After Effects commercial for TV

    Posted by Meredith Norwood on March 27, 2009 at 8:35 pm

    Hi,
    I have been using After Effects for a while to make some local TV spots. I am having an issue with quality changing from my computer, to the tv station once it’s on tv.

    My question is, what is the best way to send a video or animation to a tv station? I am exporting the file as a mov and burning it to a dvd for a computer. Frequently they ask for a dvd that can play in a dvd player, which means I have to go through IDVD on my mac. I think that IDVD make the quality go way down, because when i test it on my tv or any tv after its been burned to a dvd, the quality is pretty bad. So, my temporary solution has been to burn a mov file directly to a computer disc. The tv station charges 10 dollars from there, so that they can put it onto beta disk. I think the quality is still being lost somewhere in there. I have watched the local stations for my spots as well as other locals spots, and mine are still fuzzy compared.

    I might need a simple crash course in getting them from my computer to tv in the best quality possible. Am I needing another piece of equipment or program to make the spots look their best? or is it an issue that the actual tv station has?

    Chris Filiano replied 14 years, 7 months ago 5 Members · 6 Replies
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  • Todd Morgan

    March 27, 2009 at 9:00 pm

    Your first issue is delivering your spot as a DVD file. There is your first problem. Why a station is asking for a DVD doesn’t make any sense. DVD mpeg compression will reduce your file quality. Are there no other delivery formats they can take?

  • Bill Russell

    March 27, 2009 at 9:12 pm

    What are your dimensions, resolution, codec? What do you feed to iDVD? Meanwhile, I’ll make some guesses and recommendations:

    If you’re generating and/or compositing graphics, then you may be noticing augmented issues from graphics and their colors.

    Are you rendering to DV and then putting it in iDVD? DV has 4:1:1 color space which really uglifies detail around strong colors, and then that gets compounded when converted to DVD’s 4:2:0 color space. I don’t use iDVD, but if memory serves, it can only accept a DV file, is that right? In any case, if you can, export not as DV but as uncompressed or animation or max quality photo jpeg (pjpg saves space over the other two). You’ll want to encode two-pass at highest manageable bitrate (not too high or disk won’t play).

    If you cannot encode from a non-DV source in iDVD, then… In Encore, Compressor or DVD Studio Pro you can encode DVD media from any high quality codec, and will get better results than from DV. If you don’t have any of these, google the internet for good DVD encoding software.

    Other tips:

    — Don’t put whites at 255. Keep then down around 229 at max. Will look better when broadcast.

    — Likewise, make sure you have blacks near the bottom.

    — Reign in saturation a whole lot. I think you’ll find that a bit less goes a long way after converted to broadcast video.

    — You’ll actually want the mid-ranges too to be darker than what looks good on a computer screen. Strong imagery on a computer screen gets blown out in broadcast.

    In normal situations, a professional would “color correct” your work to reign it in for pleasing video broadcast. But local access doesn’t have resources for that. You’ll want to “think TV”, realizing that your computer screen is not a good guide. You need whites to actually be slightly gray looking on your computer screen at their whitest, colors not too saturated, and mid-tones to be deep.

    Broadcast limits are quite a bit more narrow than what you can see on your comptuter screen. Whites over 235 get clipped in broadcast, as do saturated colors. In other words, if you have a lot of detail in these upper areas, it gets thrown away! If your source before encoding is DV, that’ll make this too bright and too strong color problem all the more.

    Let us know if any of this makes a difference!

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  • Bill Russell

    March 27, 2009 at 9:20 pm

    I worked in local access in the early 90’s. Local access is a very important resource, but they typically have almost no personnel nor money, and are technologically rudimentary. I was in a city of forty thousand people total, and we broadcast from banks of VHS running at slow speed (to save tape costs and labor — only ONE paid employee for 24/7/365!) It’s not about quality, it’s about getting essential material out there on a shoestring.

    Obviously no commercial broadcast station would ever source from a DVD, ever. But this is a local access channel, and it seems Meredith’s only options are DVD or pay ten bucks a pop of her own pocket to deliver each movie file. That adds up in the shoe string world. 🙂

    “THE LOST SKELETON OF CADAVRA”

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  • First Last

    March 27, 2009 at 10:40 pm

    You said other commercials look fine. Try asking them (producers of the other commercials) what they deliver.

    I worked at a news station for awhile and they could only put certain Quicktime codecs from FCP in the system (something like DVCPro50, I think).

    You’re better off asking the people you’re delivering it to, or even better, going down to the station with a few different formats. They should be able to throw something up on a live feed’thing’a’ma’jig that will give you an idea of what the final quality would be.

    Production Associate
    Bend, Oregon, United States

  • Meredith Norwood

    April 7, 2009 at 4:10 pm

    I don’t know if the problem is when i start out creating the spot, should i be making it for standard tv? widescreen? HD?

    what’s the best way to send it out so that all the varieties of tvs are covered?

    Do most tv stations send out several versions?

    Or does the tv station play one version that is reduced automatically, according to what tv its playing on?

    If I create an HD widescreen version, will it work on standard tv as well?

    And also, if I create widescreen, will some people’s tvs have the black bars at the bottom and top? or will it cut off the sides? (i’d prefer cutting off the sides)

  • Chris Filiano

    October 15, 2011 at 1:05 am

    some broadcasters and cable networks will accept commercials on HDCAM,HDCAM-SR,or DVCPRO-HD tape formats,or as Quicktime,MPEG-2,or Windows Media Video file formats.

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