Creative Communities of the World Forums

The peer to peer support community for media production professionals.

Activity Forums Adobe After Effects Premultiply – matted with color

  • Premultiply – matted with color

    Posted by Graham Macfarlane on September 2, 2011 at 5:25 pm

    I have a layer with transparency which needs premultiplying with black but I would rather not render it out in order to apply the standard interpret footage method as it will create a massive intermediate render.
    Is there a way to achieve this same premultiplying effect on a single layer (using AE CS5)?

    Many thanks
    Graham

    Graham Macfarlane
    3D animator and VFX specialist
    London UK

    Walter Soyka replied 14 years, 8 months ago 4 Members · 7 Replies
  • 7 Replies
  • Tudor “ted” jelescu

    September 2, 2011 at 7:13 pm

    This tutorial may give you the answer you are looking for:
    https://library.creativecow.net/rollason_ben/lens-flare/1

    Tudor “Ted” Jelescu
    Senior VFX Artist

  • Darby Edelen

    September 2, 2011 at 7:14 pm

    Could you explain a little more about what it is you have and what you’re doing with it? I’m having a hard time figuring out why you’d need to premultiply footage for a workflow within AE.

    Are we talking about removing premultiplication?

    Darby Edelen

  • Walter Soyka

    September 2, 2011 at 7:31 pm

    Channel Combiner has a straight-to-premultiplied option.

    Solid Composite will let you stick a black matte behind your transparent layer.

    But, like Darby, I’m curious as to why you want pre-multiplication in AE.

    Walter Soyka
    Principal & Designer at Keen Live
    Motion Graphics, Widescreen Events, Presentation Design, and Consulting
    RenderBreak Blog – What I’m thinking when my workstation’s thinking
    Creative Cow Forum Host: Live & Stage Events

  • Graham Macfarlane

    September 5, 2011 at 1:29 pm

    Tudor, thanks for the link. Very useful info there!

    Darby and Walter,
    I have an asset containing coloured blurry graphics against black (no alpha channel) which I wanted to be against white. When Track Matting the asset in AE to make an alpha and using this over a white background one sees dark fringing in the blurry edges of the graphics.

    I could have rendered out the asset with this alpha and then loaded it back in and interpreted the footage using, Premultiplied – Matted with colour (black) but I wanted to avoid the extra file space usage of an intermediate asset.

    The Channel combiner effect does exactly what I need!
    Many thanks for your help guys!

    Graham Macfarlane
    3D animator and VFX specialist
    London UK

  • Walter Soyka

    September 5, 2011 at 1:37 pm

    You can also use Red Giant Software’s free UnMult [link] next time you need to remove a black background from a semitransparent object.

    Walter Soyka
    Principal & Designer at Keen Live
    Motion Graphics, Widescreen Events, Presentation Design, and Consulting
    RenderBreak Blog – What I’m thinking when my workstation’s thinking
    Creative Cow Forum Host: Live & Stage Events

  • Graham Macfarlane

    September 5, 2011 at 1:41 pm

    Downloading now!!!
    Cheers!

    Graham Macfarlane
    3D animator and VFX specialist
    London UK

  • Walter Soyka

    September 5, 2011 at 1:48 pm

    Happy to help!

    I was a little thrown by your original question, because AE doesn’t really expose premultiplication to the user like many other compositors do, but it all makes sense now.

    Walter Soyka
    Principal & Designer at Keen Live
    Motion Graphics, Widescreen Events, Presentation Design, and Consulting
    RenderBreak Blog – What I’m thinking when my workstation’s thinking
    Creative Cow Forum Host: Live & Stage Events

We use anonymous cookies to give you the best experience we can.
Our Privacy policy | GDPR Policy