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  • Lance Bachelder

    May 10, 2012 at 11:15 pm

    Don’t think the fair thing is a legit argument – FCPX was a 100% new NLE. Premiere is NOT – it’s version 6 and been around for years. I appreciate the update look and it’s getting better each rev. but it really should be even better and could have been had Adobe been listening to “pro” users years ago like they are now.

    Lance Bachelder
    Writer, Editor, Director
    Irvine, California

  • Rich Joyce

    May 10, 2012 at 11:21 pm

    I run premiere on a Mac also and it works well. Maybe your machine needs an update Lance?

  • Lance Bachelder

    May 10, 2012 at 11:30 pm

    Think you mean Bret but yeah I need an update too – c’mon Apple when is the new Mac Pro coming?

    Although FCPX runs great but it’s the graphics card that helps, C’mon Adobe approve the 5770 already…

    Lance Bachelder
    Writer, Editor, Director
    Irvine, California

  • Shane Ross

    May 10, 2012 at 11:48 pm

    Works great on my Mac too.

    Mac Pro 3,1
    8 core
    10.7.2
    Nvidia GTX285 (Mercury Playback enabled)
    12 gigs ram
    CalDigit HD One
    Kona 3

    I don’t get the stuttery, sputter issues at all. H.264 smooth as butter. GoPro, the same. AVI from flip camera…a tad sluggish, but not much. I cut my NAB project with it, and now using it to cut a sizzle reel. Works great.

    Yes, you need gobs of RAM and a Mercury enabled card. Otherwise you’ll be sluggish. Bear that in mind.

    Plus, it interacts with others without third party app needs. thumbnail skimming retains IN and OUT points. And doesn’t have that ridiculous MAGNETIC TIMELINE. Nor does it have CLIP COLLISION. I jumped when I moved a clip and it OVER WROTE the clip I was slipping it towards. JUST LIKE I WANTED IT TO.

    Stupid Magnetic timeline stupidness. Yeah, I don’t like that timeline… 🙂

    Shane
    Little Frog Post
    Read my blog, Little Frog in High Def

  • Jules Bowman

    May 10, 2012 at 11:58 pm

    Bill, I jump down your throat when you’ve rolled over many of us with the X is ahead of the curve and we can’t evolve line or argument, so I think it only fair of me to doff my hat to you for this post.

    We may now resume sniping at each other and the balance of the universe will be resumed.

  • Tim Wilson

    May 10, 2012 at 11:59 pm

    [Tom Daigon] ” Im a firm believer that everyone is allowed their own preferences and I wish you well. :D”

    Son, you can take that nonsense straight to another forum here at the COW. This here’s the DEBATE forum.

    Tim Wilson
    Associate Publisher, Editor-in-Chief
    Creative COW Magazine
    Twitter: timdoubleyou

  • Tom Daigon

    May 11, 2012 at 12:03 am

    Hi Tim! 😀

    Tom Daigon
    PrP / After Effects Editor
    http://www.hdshotsandcuts.com
    Mac Pro 3,1
    8 core
    10.7.3
    Nvidia Quadro 4000
    24 gigs ram
    Maxx Digital / Areca 8tb. raid
    Kona 3

  • Aindreas Gallagher

    May 11, 2012 at 12:12 am

    [Bill Davis] “When X was introduced the first week everyone piled on and gleefully reported every little thing that didn’t work to their satisfaction.

    Some of us suggested that any brand new product requires time to mature and stabilize.

    That was my assessment about X when it was released, and in my opinion it’s every bit as fair an assessment about Premier Pro 6 now that it’s been released.

    If Adobe doesn’t address what might appear to be early stage flaws in a few months – fine. But at least give their dev team time to get the feedback from the real world and let users have enough time to do more than walk around and kick the most obvious tires.

    That’s my opinion.”

    https://vimeo.com/user1590967/videos
    http://www.ogallchoir.net
    promo producer/editor.grading/motion graphics

  • John Davidson

    May 11, 2012 at 12:17 am

    I hacked the 5770 to work and it crapped out with dropped, stuttery playback. I have had to force quit Premiere about 4 times in just a few hours of playing around (before and after the hack). Also previewing a comp in AE has demonstrated that there are still problems with audio sync (h264 quicktime problem?). I enable multiple processors, tried to ram preview a 10 second comp, and got a warning that ‘initializing background processes may take a while’, turned it off after a few minutes of nothing, and now the audio won’t sync in AE. Even restarting didn’t fix the AE sync.

    Not a big fan of having to select a track I want to make changes to in Premiere. Are there shortcuts for activating and deactivating tracks for edit? Rendering seems to take about as long as FCP – and on that subject, how the heck do you turn off the automatic playback of the sequence after render? It makes me lose my place and gets quite annoying.

    Also noticed that the window layout got wonky. Tried to revert to the original one and wouldn’t budge – had to reset it. Weird.

    I really really want Premiere to work and make us happy. Having to constantly click the side of the timeline to do stuff is maddening – as is having to place the playhead wherever I want to paste transitions, etc. So many weird quirks here. Maybe this is normal. I’m trying to keep an open mind while we work out the idiosyncrasies… Surprised at how many times I have to quit and reopen it to get it to work right. And where’s my CS6 license email already?

    It’s tough because I like the Adobe guys and I know how criticism of something you put your heart into can be stressful. Just not sure what’s going on here. I’m hoping it’s one of those situations where I’m just using it wrong.

    12 core mac pro, 5770, RAID 5, 64 gigs of ram, blackmagic decklink studio, etc.

  • Frank Gothmann

    May 11, 2012 at 12:20 am

    [Lance Bachelder] “End result: FCPX did much better job at both stabilizing and removing jello cam. “

    That a very different result most people find when comparing the warp stabilizer with X.
    eg https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MW3qU6pXBtA

    I am very happy with the performance, even on a tired old Quad Core Macpro with a GT120 I find working with it wonderfully fluid and
    completely beach-ball free. On a modern machine it just flies.

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