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Premiere vs. FCPX
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[Paul Jay] “FCPX and CS6 are both awesome and both will deserve their place.”
Paul,
You understand this is heresy right?
In this forum, one must swear allegiance to an NLE. Unconditionally!
One must be outraged when anyone suggests it’s not ideal for everyone. And one needs to develop a deep, deep desire to bask in the warm glow of self-satisfaction when someone says something nice about your choice.
Some of the priests here have proved to be so sage that they can notice the good in all – but to ascend to that level of neutralized judgeship requires many, many posts and expertise in one of the more arcane arts that everyone fears and values so much that they can’t dismiss.
So far, only Walter S and Tim have ascended into such lofty clouds – and Tim’s a special case because he works for the joint and talks to the owner regularly.
You’ve been warned, so get in line, dude.
This reasonableness must not stand…
“Before speaking out ask yourself whether your words are true, whether they are respectful and whether they are needed in our civil discussions.”-Justice O’Connor
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[Walter Soyka] “Thanks for taking the time to explain in more detail, Lance.
“I have to second Lance’s enthusiasm. I haven’t used it in years but I’ll definitely have it on my machine if I add a PC workstation. Those Sonic Foundry guys really were some of the sharpest tools in the shed. I used it mostly as a DAW, and it was a very good one.
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[Chris Harlan] “Those Sonic Foundry guys really were some of the sharpest tools in the shed. I used it mostly as a DAW, and it was a very good one.”
I completely agree, those folks at Sonic Foundry were sharp. I cut a music video for a friend a number of years ago (in Vegas 4 I believe). We had locked the edit and were about to start finishing, when he decided that he wasn’t crazy about some of the vocals. Instead of going back to Protools to re-record, we plugged in a microphone and recorded a new track in Vegas, he liked it so much we re-recorded all of his background vocals (8 in all, I think). Long story short, we ended up bringing the entire mix into Vegas, complete with VST plugins, processing (reverb, flanges, etc.) and routing in and out of hardware compressors… not in a separate project, but into the actual edit… without a dropped frame in sight.
Vegas was my ‘go to’ editor for years, because it was so flexible and it could do so many things… even though no one had heard of it, and it had a quirky UI. Unfortunately, after the acquisition by Sony, Vegas just seemed to get buggier with each release. I think I went to Premiere full time after CS2, as I started doing more compositing and 3D work… the CS Suite just seemed to make more sense by then.
At any rate, for any FCP users (Legacy and X) who are planning to go bi-platform… seriously, you owe it to yourself to at least try Vegas, especially if you have a heavy bent towards audio.
Shawn
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Bill, I haven’t read all of the posts in this thread yet, but I jumped into PR6 today (to test) and had similar results. FCP X was far faster. I used 720p60 AVCHD and there’s really no details to discuss because the entire process from launch to import, to drawing poster frames and skimming (hovering) was much faster on FCP X.
Mac Pro 2×2.26 Quad-Core Intel Xeon/ OS 10.7.3/16 GB RAM/ ATI Radeon HD 5770
No other apps running.
Tangier
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Sorry Rich, even though FCP X has some growing up to do, I think it’s in a league of it’s own in so many ways. A far departure from what we’re used to and if one tries to shoehorn the old way of doing things into FCP X it makes a lot less sense. The data management, AV foundation, use of core technologies, price point, the way developers love it,…I could go on.
Trust me I am frustrated with some things in X and frankly there’s never been an FCP version I’ve ever been 100% satisfied with, but I don’t think X is going away. FCP X will do what the iPod and iPhone did to their respective industries due the price point and younger users adopting it and expecting it. I truly believe it is the Wii of it’s generation (except way more powerful) and I also believe that there’s “one more thing” that Apple will announce this year that works with or in FCP X; just following some developer trails.
We all pick our tool(s) of choice, but for me Adobe has always been very useful in everything but Premiere, but the codebase seems not to great when running on a mac; slow and bloated but the main workhorse like Photoshop or AfterEffects – mostly because there’s not much competition.
I’d love Apple to buy Pixelmator and SuperPaint and GIMP and Appleize it. Anywho I digress.
FCP 7 is a like a slow dog to me now when I go back to it. It’s most familiar, but it’s painful at times to work in it now that I’ve used X so much. I still need to dabble in Pr6 more, but first impressions at best only amount to where FCP was years ago. Best to know as many tools as you can in the end.
Tangier
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[Tangier Clarke] “I still need to dabble in Pr6 more, but first impressions at best only amount to where FCP was years ago.”
Give PP6 a try. I think you’re in for a big surprise.
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“In this forum, one must swear allegiance to an NLE. Unconditionally!”
Love this post in particular Bill. Made me laugh. Made my day.
FCP X it is for me. I’m all in; growing pains and all.
…but I will still cut a project or three in PP6 to see/learn what it can do.
Tangier
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