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  • Vince Becquiot

    December 19, 2009 at 4:20 pm

    Looks all normal to me. Quicktime does not interpret your non-square par correctly and just displays the video as if it were square.

    That’s a common problem for most media players, especially on the PC side.

    Always export square for media players. Your 1st export is the right one.

    Vince Becquiot

    Kaptis Studios
    San Francisco – Bay Area

  • Ann Bens

    December 19, 2009 at 6:35 pm

    Its QT that does not hold the par.
    Stick to dv-avi.

    Edit: most players such as WMP, VLC, Adobe Media Player hold their PAR just fine.
    Why use mov on a pc.

  • Malcolm Neakl

    December 19, 2009 at 9:23 pm

    In my experience (I went through them all) h264 was the best compression to image quality on cs3, followed by mpeg4. all the AVI based compressions were rubbish. I tested this by making a movie of the premier pro colour bars and then rotating it for 5 seconds. Thats how I test compression quality.

    Im glad Vince said my first export was right. People have been going on about 1024 not being a proper video setting. that for dvd it has to be 720. but as ive shown on, because its the xl2, it acts all strange and puts bars in.

    My real issue is getting dv tape quality on dvd. How is it hollywood movies are great quality images for two hours and every mpeg2 compressor I use, no matter the quality settings, makes my xl2 image look like a handy cam.

    I go pro to encore, even burning without menus is awful quality IMO.

    sto pro veritate

  • Vince Becquiot

    December 19, 2009 at 9:34 pm

    [Calum Guthrie] “My real issue is getting dv tape quality on dvd. How is it hollywood movies are great quality images for two hours and every mpeg2 compressor I use, no matter the quality settings, makes my xl2 image look like a handy cam. “

    2 hours from DV is really pushing it for quality.

    Hollywood studios start with resolutions at 2k +, no temporal or color compression. They also compress in multiple passes for different scenes using hardware that cost more than my house.

    They also also have a dedicated team of people that do just that and are very good at it… Finally they often use dual layers DVDs, hence almost doubling storage, which is not really reliable at the consumer level.

    Vince Becquiot

    Kaptis Studios
    San Francisco – Bay Area

  • Malcolm Neakl

    December 19, 2009 at 10:41 pm

    oh, that’s a shame. I was really hoping to make money selling my work locally as dvds, but the quality is just so low, it’d be a waste of effort.
    At least using the encore compression.
    cheers vince.

    sto pro veritate

  • Ann Bens

    December 20, 2009 at 2:18 am

    You are quite right all avi compressions are rubbish, it Microsoft DV-avi you want.

  • Jeff Pulera

    December 20, 2009 at 4:30 am

    Re: https://forums.creativecow.net/readpost/55/862478

    No good deed goes unpunished, as they say. So I was giving you bad information, it that it? Good luck with your 1024×576 DVD renders.

    You’re welcome

    Jeff

  • Ann Bens

    December 20, 2009 at 7:44 pm

    I do not understand where this 1024×576 is coming from?
    Not from the camera nor is it suited for dvd.

  • Vince Becquiot

    December 20, 2009 at 8:42 pm

    1024×576 is the square pixels equivalent of his Pal DV footage, which is what he should use if he is going to H.264.

    While you can actually import that footage as square pixels inside Encore, it may be interpreted incorrectly and cause problems. For that, you are better off exporting as 720×576.

    Vince Becquiot

    Kaptis Studios
    San Francisco – Bay Area

  • Jon Barrie

    December 21, 2009 at 4:02 am

    If the final process is to go to DVD then going to h.264 then mpeg-2 in encore is going to create compression based generation loss and aspect ratio pixel compression anomolies. Best to try to test with shorter lengths and direct Mpeg-2 from ppro timeline. If you have long project times for productions you a
    want to sell find a place to master dual layer DVDs from an encoreDVD iso.
    Good luck. I knew a guy that made a living on making low budget (vampire/horror) straight to DVD release productions.
    – JB

    Jon Barrie
    aJBprods
    http://www.jonbarrie.net

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