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  • Premiere Pro ‘Snob’ factor

    Posted by Sam In leeds on November 23, 2007 at 11:10 am

    I have been talking to a lot of FCP users lately who confess that despite being Premiere users in the past (often which much sucess) that they have gone for FCP as it is “what everyone else is using”.

    This strikes me, as I often now have to spend a lot of time telling editors where many basic features are located on what is simply an unfamiliar layout to many. There are even a lot of people who purchase systems without ever using a Mac!! Why make life harder for yourself?

    I get so frustrated that people will not lose their ‘Snob’ element about Premiere Pro, insisting on believing that it is an inferior product, when I know for a fact that a high-end, well built custom system with goo quality parts is as (if not more – Leopard users will know what I mean!) stable than any Mac Pro/FCP setup.

    All of the top input card manufacturers support PP, and the simplicity and straightforwardness of the programme for me ranks it higher than FCP.

    Has anyone else come across this narrow-minded approach to choosing which editing setup to progress with?

    Jon Barrie replied 18 years, 5 months ago 6 Members · 5 Replies
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  • Mike Velte

    November 23, 2007 at 12:29 pm

    This attitude has been going on since ever, when the tools you used was more important than your skills. Years ago, it was all about client perception; clients were educated to ask if you used Avid and would snub their noses at an editor using Premiere.
    Much of that has changed and the debate is now more among editors about features and capabilities and a bit about platforms. The Premiere vs FCP competition is quite productive, driving both vendors to create a better product. There are shortcomings in both products, driving customers to the other side.
    The waters are getting much murkier with Apple using Intel and enabling Windows OS.
    I dont snub nor do I feel snubbed.

  • Tim Kolb

    November 23, 2007 at 4:20 pm

    I think in the end, Mike is right.

    PPro does have many capabilities that detractors simply don’t take the time to learn about…their loss ultimately.

    Once I got to the point in my career where I could operate on my reputation for completed product, I never had anyone ask me what I used for tools again. Recently I had to pick up a spot re-edit for a production company I work closely with and the spot was originally cut on an Avid. I needed to rebuild some text graphics and I used an eyedropper to pick up the text color in the finished spot. The client remarked that she thought the original editor had told her that an Avid couldn’t eyedropper color…I told her that we weren’t using an Avid.

    It’s important to also realize that everyone’s projects and methods of working are different. There are still sufficient differences across all editing systems that, for any single editor’s specific needs, could make a huge difference in productivity.

    As all these editing systems keep adding capabilities and modules toward attempting to be everyone’s answer for everything, they will all continue to become larger, more memory devouring, bloated applications that will do more and more things and fewer and fewer things really well.

    …and even as a PPro user, I have to say that Adobe is not immune to this progression.

    TimK,
    Director, Consultant
    Kolb Productions,

    Creative Cow Host,
    Author/Trainer
    http://www.focalpress.com
    http://www.classondemand.net

  • Harm Millaard

    November 23, 2007 at 4:49 pm

    Why don’t you just baffle them by saying you are using Autodesk Smoke 2007 Edition 2 on Linux, that will leave them gasping for breath if they know anything about editing and leave them speechless if they don’t.

    Harm Millaard

  • Vince Becquiot

    November 25, 2007 at 7:55 pm

    Harm,

    I think for that little trick to work, you’d better be driving a nice car 🙂

    Vince

  • Jon Barrie

    November 25, 2007 at 11:58 pm

    I have to say I’ve only been a cow leader for a week or two and I’m tired of users jumping on with a problem, I offer them a solution and 90% write back blaming PPro for not being FCP or Avid. I work with all 3 time to time and know PPro inside and nearly out. I have learned and used techniques adopted from one to the other. FCP has a large outsourced editor base, but that doesn’t mean my rep as an editor owning operating PPro has dampened my abilities as a fast storyteller.
    Is anyone else having this issue of FCP or Avid users asking for advice only to whine they could fix it in the other NLEs in half the time?
    – Jon Barrie

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