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  • Premiere Pro roundtripping?

    Posted by Jim Bachalo on February 18, 2012 at 6:15 pm

    So can someone explain to a Davinci Resolve newbie, how does the PPro-FCPx roundtripping work.

    I’ve exported my PPro project and successfully opened in Davinci Resolve, added some color corrections…and rendered. I tried simply exporting but couldn’t open the DLite exported xml in Premiere without an error.

    But the result is a series of clips WITHOUT sound..
    How do you render as a complete sequence with the dissolves preserved?

    Or do I have to re-import the rendered clipc BACK into Premiere or???

    That would mean a 2nd render and still more loss of quality…any workflow that requires more than a single render is not really ’roundtripping’…or am I mistaken?

    Local is the new global

    Ryan Peters replied 14 years, 2 months ago 4 Members · 5 Replies
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  • Jim Bachalo

    February 18, 2012 at 6:25 pm

    Tried the beta version of Davinci Resolve Lite, according to this thread it SHOULD work
    https://forums.creativecow.net/readpost/277/14302

    but the last time I tried, the problem I had was importing my Premiere Pro XML into Davinci, could only see rgb static noise as previews on all my footage.

    Local is the new global

  • Joseph Owens

    February 18, 2012 at 6:56 pm

    “Roundtripping” ….

    At least in the past six years or so the term has come to mean the ability to export a sequence into another application, do some operations with it, most of the time render new source media, and re-open substantially the same edited sequence in another, or even the original, application and have it either link to the new, modified source material, or preserve the relationship to other parts of the project, media-wise.

    You are probably running into issues with XML versions that may or not be understandable among the 3 or 4 applications you are trying to navigate between. FCP, FCX, PPro, and Resolve all have different protocols. Resolve itself seems to work best with XMLVersion 5 from FCP, but I’ve only done a couple of
    Final Cut jobs with it so far– most of my work has been with AAF roundtripping with MediaComposer6.

    As far as RGB static noise goes, seems to suggest a codec issue — and certainly there was a point in time when roundtripping between FCP and SHAKE resulted in an -endian inversion when Apple changed Quicktime for the umpteenth time and did not update all the applications that might need to access 10-bit processing — and this is of course what all FCP7 users now fear will be the fate of the last fully-functional version of Final Cut Pro (as was the case with SHAKE). But, of course we’re supposed to be happy with MOTION.

    jPo

    You mean “Old Ben”? Ben Kenobi?

  • Jim Bachalo

    February 18, 2012 at 7:27 pm

    Thanks Joseph

    yes still XML issues remain apparently.
    Tried the latest version 8.2-1 but when trying to import the XML Premiere simply reports that there was a generic error.

    if anyone can get this to work, would luv to hear from you!…otherwise am sticking with PPro-AE and Dynamic linking….not round tripping but at least it works.

    Local is the new global

  • John Michaels

    February 19, 2012 at 3:49 am

    If you’re just getting a series of clips (seemingly random order?), make sure that in Resolve you have your edited sequence highlighted, and NOT the Master Timeline, when you export your XML.

    If that is not the issue, perhaps you could try exporting an AAF instead of an XML out of Resolve? Or in Premiere Pro, try just importing the original XML (generated from FCP) and then relink the footage to the new graded stuff?

    As far as the audio: I could be wrong (I use Avid, not FCP or Premiere Pro very much), but I don’t think you will ever get audio from a Resolve-generated cut list, since Resolve itself ignores the audio from those things. You can either import the FCP-generated XML to Premiere to get the audio back, or render out a mixdown of some sort from FCP and bring them in to Premiere that way.

  • Ryan Peters

    February 19, 2012 at 6:09 am

    Not sure if this is what you are looking for but we recently put up a video on our RED workflow with steps in resolve/premiere pro/after effects.

    It touches briefly on going between the 3.

    You can check it out here:

    https://vimeo.com/36953792

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