Premiere Pro CS5 and Boris products

[Vince Becquiot]

Andy,

The update from 32 bits to 64 bits isn’t as simple as it seems. This isn’t just like any other previous update.

Red Giant hasn’t released most of their plugins either and that’s why we are waiting to update as well. Let others do the first release testing 🙂

Vince Becquiot

Kaptis Studios
San Francisco – Bay Area

[Andy Prada]

Couldn’t agree more. But you know Vince, it’s kind of wearing for us guys who’ve stuck with and supported the whole process of continuous change for probably two decades or more, constantly having to cope with leapfrogging software that never quite seems to gel in the planetry software schedule.

It’s not actually the dosh. It’s the time wasted.

Surely it’s not beyond the wit of software companies to coincide their releases with plug-in providers in order to minimise hassle for the customer.

I don’t think I’m being unreasonable in asking for this.

[Matt Mullen]

Andy,

Can definitely sympathize with you on this one but there has to be some understanding of the complexity of porting a 32 bit application to 64 bits.

Granted it is frustrating but the resources Adobe has to allocate to such a task is far greater than any plug-in company is going to have. Boris included.

And Adobe isn’t going to delay their release because (plug 3rd party software vendor in here) doesn’t have the resources to keep up.

Like any other major software upgrade you need to do your homework, make sure 3rd party features will work, OS specs etc. Determine what will and will not work and decide if upgrading or waiting is right for you.

[Andy Prada]

With respect Matthew, In my previous post I was actually having a whinge and sharing this whinge with the creative community. I come at things from a creative demand point of view not from a technology supply corner. I’m an Editor not a Media technician. I don’t appreciate it when companies release software out of sync and I don’t have much time for those who defend it.

Whatever anyone might say, In my opinion Premiere (even in CS5 guise) does not have a good enough feature set for professional broadcast editing without the support of third party vendors. Adobe flagged up their focus on optimised 64 bit with CS4. What probably threw 3P vendors thereafter was Adobe’s decision to remove 32bit support for CS5 completely. Hence the scrabble for catch-up.

My point is that, 64 bit complexities aside, all software companies need to be more integrated in their approach to new release. After all, what good does it do Adobe if a decision to upgrade to their latest version is thwarted by a key plug-in vendor not being ready? Is it because the code isn’t being made available early enough or is it because a particular piece of plug-in software has reached the end of a road and can’t be adapted without major hassle (read delay)? Please accept that I’m not having an exclusive pop at Adobe here. This is something all software companies need to consider.

In my particular case Artelsoft are a BIG company with great products – not some two bit outfit – and most decent AVID setups (Indeed any set up I expect to work on) has BCC, Graffiti or equivalent software as standard. I make a point about Boris Graffiti because, as you already know, high quality text manipulating software for MS Windows is not exactly jumping out at us.

https://www.adobe.com/products/plugins/premiere/

According to this url Graffiti is compatible with CS5. Hype,hope or just a bit careless with updating the website? It took several emails to get a firm non out of Artelsoft!

P.S. Just for the record neither am I looking for advice about when to software upgrade. I attended one of the first National Film School courses for AVID in the UK on release way back in 1990 and have worked on just about every AVID release since. That together with Speed Razor, Premiere 1-6 and Pro versions for both MAC and Windows, FCP etc etc. So I do know a few things about non-linear editing and plug-ins.

[Matt Mullen]

Fair enough. You are entitled to your opinion and I’m not trying to take that away from you. Sometimes you just need to see all sides.

If you have additional questions about Boris products e-mail me directly and you’ll get a quick response in 1 e-mail.

mattm@borisfx.com

[Andy Prada]

OK Matthew, having now sussed your mail address, I’ll ask you straight here:

If Graffiti is key to my own workflow with regard to animated text, what other software options can you offer to mitigate not being able to use it with CS5?

Problem is, I’ve seen the promised land (the Mercury Engine) and I want a piece of it now, not in six months time.

best

andy

BTW andy@pradamedia.co.uk is as good as any place to reach me.

[Matt Mullen]

Andy,

Unfortunately, as of right now there is not ETA on when any of the other Boris products will be ready for CS5. They are being worked on but there is no timetable.

I’m sorry I can’t help more but there is just no more information than that.

-Matt

[Andy Prada]

Ok Matthew, thanks for taking the time to update me on this.

I think, once the CS5 trial software has whittled it’s way down to 0 days, I’ll just quietly let it drop for a while and see how things develop. CS4 might have its limitations but at least everything works with it.

[Matt Mullen]

Andy,

That sounds like a good plan. If you are subscribed to our newsletter you’ll get word as soon as any update is released.

[Peter Corbett]

I switched to FCP late last year with CS4/WIN, but have (courtesy of the beta program) been able to use the full version CS5 on my 8-core Mac Pro. It is definitely network-ready, very stable and so quick. The Titler kills the built-in Final Cut alternative and the integration with PS and AE is great.

I think I have the best of both worlds now. By using the Mac platform, I can use both CS5 and FCP whenever it suits a specific purpose. CS4 was a disaster but this time Adobe have truly produced something great.

Peter Corbett
Powerhouse Productions
http://www.php.com.au