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  • Premiere Pro CS4 Import/Interpret Issues

    Posted by Alex Larson on March 7, 2010 at 6:40 pm

    I am preparing to make my next amv, but the issue is it will not read the file properly. I am importing a vob file which is at 29.97 fps.

    When it imports to Premiere Pro, it shows a 23.976 fps. This results in choppy/jerky playback. I set it to interpret footage [“assume”] at 29.97 but it speeds up the video.

    I have also used AVS Remaker to convert it to AVI and MPEG. The mpeg would go just like the vob, showing 23.976 fps. The AVI would go in at 29.97 😀

    The issue with avi is, the first 1/4 of the video contains EVERYTHING. Everything is shoved there, and speed up. The rest of the footage will be just a repeating frame. The audio stays at the same speed however.

    https://i47.tinypic.com/oruw01.jpg

    So my question is, how do I get this to work? I would prefer keeping it in the original VOB format.

    Note: I have tried using avs video converter, which goes into premiere pro fine (using AVI or WMV format). The problem with that is i receive quality loss, regardless of what settings i use. [i am using my own settings]

    Alex Larson replied 16 years, 1 month ago 5 Members · 10 Replies
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  • Lou Cannizzo

    March 7, 2010 at 8:01 pm

    Forgive me if you posted the info:

    Are you sure your “timeline” and your “footage” are set correctly?
    Also, if you advance frame by frame, are there any “still” frames or “ghosting”, or cross-disolve frames? These are tell tale signs that timelines and/or interpretations are incorrect.

  • Alex Larson

    March 7, 2010 at 8:04 pm

    There is ghosting in some frames. The timeline is set to 29.97 fps. The issue is the file imports at 23.976 fps which is incorrect.

    I have read around and people say mpeg formats simply are not made to be edited with Premiere Pro. If that is the case, why would I be having trouble with my AVI file.

  • Lou Cannizzo

    March 7, 2010 at 9:09 pm

    That’s not true, you can use Mpeg in cs4, I use it all the time.
    Here is your problem:
    When you’re rendering out to “Mpeg” are you using the 3:2 pulldown?
    I had the exact problem (If i am understanding you correctly)

    Your problem is NOT with premiere’s import, it’s with the way you rendering it as an mpeg.

    You need to make sure you’re not removing (pulldown)the extra frames.
    If you select the wrong render settings, your encoder will remove the 6 frames per/sec giving you a 23.976 render.
    then, if you try to add them back via Interpret footage, you are making a mess out the the footage.

  • Alex Larson

    March 7, 2010 at 11:32 pm

    Well, Video Remaker doesn’t give me any advanced options such as that. (AVS Converter does, however there is quality loss)

    The original VOB file has the same issue as mpeg where it is at the wrong fps

    So in all honesty, I don’t know if the 3:2 pulldown is being used. And, why when I view the framerate view properties in windows (or any other program for that matter) i see 29.97 ? It is ONLY Premiere that shows the 23.976

  • Jon Barrie

    March 8, 2010 at 12:13 am

    Does it playback properly in a 23.976 timeline? If so I’d say the material I 24fps embedded in a 29.97 signal and premiere is interpreting it properly.

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  • Alex Larson

    March 8, 2010 at 12:16 am

    Perhaps. I will try another DVD to be sure though. I will post back with the results.

  • Jake Williams

    March 8, 2010 at 9:40 pm

    Hi Alex,

    I have had this problem a few times. The easiest fix I found was to use mpeg streamclip to rip a video only dv stream or avi from the VOB file using desired settings (fps etc). The just sync that up with the audio track within premiere.

    Jake Williams

  • Alex Larson

    March 9, 2010 at 4:02 am

    I tried another movie (Hellboy) and it showed up as 23.976 in premiere (again, it is 29.97 in all other programs).

    So this sounds like nothing more than an import issue.

    I feel it would be much simpler to just use avi conversion, however as i previously stated, it speeds up the clip (video only) and then is just a repeating frame with the original audio from the clip.

    To keep it simple, how do I get rid of that issue with the avi. I have concluded that the VOB may not be worth the effort.

  • Ross Tokach

    March 16, 2010 at 7:21 am

    VOB is video, it will never run as intended at anything other than 30 fps and I believe it is a very unusual aspect ratio. Which means in order to run native it has to be imported to that size of project or you can try dragging it into after effects and laying it on a timeline= the resolution you want it to be, then precomp render it, reimport to premiere, walla!

    “Oop, I think my render is done!”

  • Alex Larson

    March 17, 2010 at 1:02 am

    No, I can set it to the correct aspect ratio (the movie is 16:9 default, not any of that 2.35:1 crap).

    If i re-render it in the 23.967 TO 29.97 there will be no difference, in fact. It may even become choppier. You cannot render what “isn’t” there.
    (note that what isn’t there is there, only premiere pro doesn’t see it).

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